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GaylordWilshire Jan 13, 2016 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7297721)
:previous:

"Exterior view of the South Ebell Club building located at 7101 S. Menlo Street. The new $18,000 modernistic clubhouse was formally opened with ceremonies attended by club federation officials. Photograph dated: October 2, 1930."

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...b.jpg~original
LAPL

And ER'S post 33096


A little more South Ebell....

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-o...southebell.jpg

From post 3508

ethereal_reality Jan 13, 2016 11:09 PM

"Phone booth and Newsstand late 1950s. Los Angeles" designed by Henry Dreyfuss

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...907/Gwwb15.jpg
from Industrial Design, volume 5, 1959

Does anyone recall this design, or was it just a temporary prototype? The street corner looks to be somewhere in the Civic Center.

I like the little awning over the newsstand.

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ethereal_reality Jan 13, 2016 11:55 PM

Using Wig-Wag's instructions, and following the train on it's journey, I located another building.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...905/AHdE3z.jpg
screen-grab / Columbia Pictures 1946



Here it is in 2011. The address is 5246-5238 San Fernando Road.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...908/SrMIgG.jpg
gsv


Recently it's had an insensitive remodel.

Today
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...911/LkJDqT.jpg

The doors and windows at street level are a big improvement, but the bricks have been covered up (hate that!), and the area with the horizontal diamond pattern
has been covered over.

The paint job is regrettable.
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ethereal_reality Jan 14, 2016 12:08 AM

Just a friendly reminder.

Double Indemnity is showing tonight on TCM, 8:00 Eastern / 5:00 Pacific.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...910/owD9oD.jpg
http://margaretperry.org/barbara-sta...ady-or-a-liar/

Hollywood Girl Jan 14, 2016 12:09 AM

Edison Electric Substation Substation #2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 6993350)
Right click on any photo for a Google image search. That's how I found MR's post

LAT on the very noiry history of Indian Alley/Werdin Place

Werdin and Winston looking south. John Parkinson's 1909 Canadian Building on the right (site of our first Federal Building/P.O. as Flyingwedge explained). 118 Winston (1887) on the left:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-8...15423%2BPM.jpg
gsv

Werdin Pl looking north towards E 4th St. From left, The Hellman Building, the 1897 Van Nuys/Barclay Hotel, The San Fernando Building (1907) and the Jeffries (1927). Substation #2 was on the east side of this section of Werdin. Looks like an expansion of the Edison Building took it out:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-3...23427%2BPM.jpg
gsv

I don't know why Werdin is gated (?)

The Edison Building is still there:


Complete with ghost sign (the former Venice Hotel is still there too):
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-h...32217%2BPM.jpg
gsv

A word on the Venice Hotel. It still houses LA's oldest bathhouse, since 1905 (or there abouts):

"Turkish & Electric Baths (now KLYT) – 132 E. 4th Street LA, CA 90013
If it’s more dirt that you’re looking for, walk down to LA’s oldest bathhouse that still operates today and has hosted many a closeted movie star. Most men only bathed once a month at the turn of the century. LA never funded public bathhouses, so the private sector swung into action. You can still see the broken neon sign proclaiming BATHS high above the doorway."

- outtraveler

Hotel (west entrance) and Baths (east door) and some once-was neon:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-V...34112%2BPM.jpg
gsv

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...6437047fa3.jpg
I saw the post and Edison Electric Substation #2 was mentioned but no picture. I hope this helps as far as where it was.
I hope I'm doing this right, sorry if it's not I'm forum retarded as ethereal reality can tell you.

ethereal_reality Jan 14, 2016 12:50 AM

:previous: Very interesting photograph Hollywood Girl. I quickly perused the #2 substations in the So. Cal. Edison Collection
at the Huntington Archive and couldn't find any that matched it.
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"St Pauls School, Los Angeles"

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...908/oP0Acs.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/CALIFORNIA-L...QAAOSw5dNWkxMG

I like how the lot is slightly raised. -but I wasn't able to figure out the location (there have been numerous St Pauls in the Los Angeles area).
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tovangar2 Jan 14, 2016 3:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hollywood Girl (Post 7298278)
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...6437047fa3.jpg
I saw the post and Edison Electric Substation #2 was mentioned but no picture. I hope this helps as far as where it was.

I was obliquely referencing MichaelRyerson's excellent post on the block of Werdin Alley between 4th and 5th Streets (I should have linked to it). Your photo opens up questions. More investigation is needed to sort it out.

Noircitydame Jan 14, 2016 4:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7297957)
I'm almost sad that I know where today's Julius Shulman picture was taken, because the last couple of "mystery locations" have generated some great follow-ups. The Lerner Shops seen here was at 749 S Broadway. It's "Job 170: Wurdeman & Becket, Lerner Shops (Los Angeles, Calif.), 1948".

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
Getty Research Institute

The building is still there, but this corner of Broadway is looking a bit tatty. A fresh coat of paint would go a long way to helping the old Lerner Shops store, but I don't understand why only the lower third of the building to the right was clad in mirrored glass.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original
GSV

Follow-up lives on, anyway!

There's this image of the 749 S. Broadway building before its mid-century makeover.

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...20bwy_1916.jpg detail

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...broadway_1.jpg from this image in the Huntington library
Wedged between the 10-story 1916 Merritt Building and the 8-story 1913 Isaacs Building.

here's another that I'd cropped from someplace, without the signage covering the top floor.
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...20broadway.jpg

ethereal_reality Jan 14, 2016 6:33 AM

'mystery' rooftop, thirteen stories in the air. [ca.1926]

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...907/iv7WnI.jpg
eBay




http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...907/SNwfPd.jpg
reverse

"The girls are Nita Lorraine and Barbara Vernon."

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GaylordWilshire Jan 14, 2016 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7298317)

"St Pauls School, Los Angeles"

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...908/oP0Acs.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/CALIFORNIA-L...QAAOSw5dNWkxMG

I like how the lot is slightly raised. -but I wasn't able to figure out the location (there have been numerous St Pauls in the Los Angeles area).
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https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Y...2520AM.bmp.jpg


The school was at 1908 S Bronson from 1922 to 1962-- now a parking lot.

CityBoyDoug Jan 14, 2016 4:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 6993350)
Right click on any photo for a Google image search. That's how I found MR's post

LAT on the very noiry history of Indian Alley/Werdin Place

Werdin and Winston looking south. John Parkinson's 1909 Canadian Building on the right (site of our first Federal Building/P.O. as Flyingwedge explained). 118 Winston (1887) on the left:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-8...15423%2BPM.jpg
gsv

Werdin Pl looking north towards E 4th St. From left, The Hellman Building, the 1897 Van Nuys/Barclay Hotel, The San Fernando Building (1907) and the Jeffries (1927). Substation #2 was on the east side of this section of Werdin. Looks like an expansion of the Edison Building took it out:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-3...23427%2BPM.jpg
gsv

I don't know why Werdin is gated (?)

The Edison Building is still there:


Complete with ghost sign (the former Venice Hotel is still there too):
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-h...32217%2BPM.jpg
gsv

A word on the Venice Hotel. It still houses LA's oldest bathhouse, since 1905 (or there abouts):

"Turkish & Electric Baths (now KLYT) – 132 E. 4th Street LA, CA 90013
If it’s more dirt that you’re looking for, walk down to LA’s oldest bathhouse that still operates today and has hosted many a closeted movie star. Most men only bathed once a month at the turn of the century. LA never funded public bathhouses, so the private sector swung into action. You can still see the broken neon sign proclaiming BATHS high above the doorway."

- outtraveler

Aren't most of the alley's of downtown LA gated to keep ''someone'' out of them....probably the itinerants who now throng the area in large numbers.

ethereal_reality Jan 14, 2016 4:55 PM

'mystery' location

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...905/I5FT7A.jpg
eBay

It wouldn't be a mystery if I could only read the street signs....but they're just too darn small.

I just noticed a motorcycle getting ready to pull out into the street.
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Thanks for finding the location of St Pauls School GW.

Tourmaline Jan 14, 2016 5:34 PM

:previous:

I see a faintly legible street sign at far left under traffic light. Building has partially visible signage too. "Pasadena" is on Freeway sign. Maybe Hollywood at top. Plymouth Fury? and Anglia? :shrug:

ethereal_reality Jan 14, 2016 5:53 PM

Kodachrome_slide 1958.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...903/1DjSfa.jpg
eBay

:previous: There's a man inside the street car with a movie camera.

I want that film!
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HossC Jan 14, 2016 6:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7299095)

W Temple at N Grand. The building on the left is now the Music Center Annex.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...d.jpg~original
GSV

HossC Jan 14, 2016 8:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noircitydame (Post 7298569)

Follow-up lives on, anyway!

I knew you wouldn't let me down, Noircitydame :).


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Today's Julius Shulman post has the location in the description. This is Western Federal Savings on the corner of Prospect Avenue and N Vermont Avenue. It's "Job 5228: Sidney Eisenshtat, Western Federal Savings (Los Angeles, Calif.), 1975".
NB. The two pictures in the set are virtually identical, so I just picked one.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
Getty Research Institute

The building is now shared between US Bank and Starbucks. Note how the steps have been replaced by a ramp.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original
GSV

This area appears very briefly in the 2000 Dukes of Hazzard TV movie 'Hazzard in Hollywood'. I won't go into the complex plotline (;)), but in this scene the Duke Boys are escaping from the bad guys when they swerve into a bikini car wash at Prospect and Vermont. At the time of filming, the bank building was empty. I've just noticed the people watching at the far left.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original
Warner Bros

Looking the other way, we get a quick glimpse of Orange Bee Jay's at 1670 N Vermont. It appears in the 1987 CD.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...4.jpg~original
Warner Bros

Orange Bee Jay's is now Machos Tacos. There's also a real car wash next door. The 1987 CD lists it as the Hollymont Car Wash and Auto Repair Center. It now seems to be called Vermont Handwash, and has some pretty scathing reviews on yelp.com.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...5.jpg~original
GSV

ethereal_reality Jan 14, 2016 9:16 PM

And there's Sarno's next door.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...911/d64Zzt.jpg
Getty



This is my favorite photograph of the place.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...905/twWXFf.jpg
http://ilcapriccioonvermont.com/2013.../#.VpgOhBUrKhc




I'm pretty sure we've already seen this image on NLA, but here it is anyway.

in 1987
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...910/x1b2du.jpg
http://www.kcet.org/socal/departures...los-feliz.html

There was really a place named Orange Bee Jay?

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HossC Jan 14, 2016 9:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7299525)

There was really a place named Orange Bee Jay?

Oh yes! From the 1987 CD.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...s.jpg~original
LAPL

ethereal_reality Jan 14, 2016 9:56 PM

Yellow Cab driver striking a pose during training on Western Avenue, Los Angeles, 1926.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...633/dvQxKn.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...d/73163/rec/12

:previous: When I first saw this photograph I thought it was our man Rood. ;)



I was hoping to see a name tag.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...908/cmQxWp.jpg
detail




below: I don't think he's taking his training too seriously.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...908/K1BfjG.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...d/73163/rec/12



What's he reading?
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...903/vjh8JF.jpg
Artists and Models, June 1926





Now it's his turn to drive -and he pulls out right in front of somebody.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...910/R2Jr7p.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...d/73163/rec/12





below: I couldn't help but notice the interesting building in the background. I believe it's part of the school; probably the gymnasium.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...911/IFWKGc.jpg
detail


You can see all seven photographs from this group here:
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...d/73163/rec/12

HossC posted a photo from the group here:
http://skyscraperpage.com/forum/show...ostcount=21733

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HossC Jan 14, 2016 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7298714)

'mystery' rooftop, thirteen stories in the air. [ca.1926]

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...907/iv7WnI.jpg
eBay

"The girls are Nita Lorraine and Barbara Vernon."

I think the ladies were standing on top of the 1926 Orpheum Theatre at 842 South Broadway, with the camera looking towards the corner of 8th and Spring. The Orpheum is twelve stories high, so the roof would be the thirteenth. I recreated the photograph in the view below by using the roof of the Platt Building at 834 South Broadway as the viewpoint. It wasn't finished until 1927, so can't be the location in the vintage picture, but it now blocks the view from the Orpheum.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
Google Earth

Here's the photo and caption in the July 2, 1926 edition of the Santa Cruz Evening News. There's no accompanying story.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original
www.newspapers.com


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