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CityBoyDoug Jan 6, 2016 7:40 AM

[QUOTE=Bristolian;7289446]
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7289237)
President Lyndon Johnson campaigning in Los Angeles, 1964(?)

Over here Mr. President!

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...911/VW2u8w.jpg
eBay

Could this be a visit by LBJ when he was Vice President? It seems unlikely he'd be allowed to ride in an open car through a crowd like this after the JFK assassination. Some of the cars in the other photos are from the early '60s so it's not the 1960 campaign.

1964....a wild ride through downtown LA.

ProphetM Jan 6, 2016 8:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 7289457)

Yes, I believe this was when Brown was governor of CA. No cars of the Kennedy era are seen in the pics. Is that Pat Brown in the back of the car in the photo?

Well, Pat Brown was governor from 1959-1967. As I mentioned on the previous page, the Victor Clothing company moved to the Hosfield Building in 1964, so that's a lower bound.

Flyingwedge Jan 6, 2016 8:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7289237)
President Lyndon Johnson campaigning in Los Angeles, 1964(?)

A cluster of policemen earlier in the day.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/907/yS08Fp.jpg
eBay

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These photos have to be from 1964. The banner in the background advertises the campaign of U.S. Senator
Pierre Salinger (D), who lost that year to former actor George Murphy (R).

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Salinger

Beaudry Jan 6, 2016 8:27 AM

[QUOTE=Bristolian;7289446]
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7289237)
President Lyndon Johnson campaigning in Los Angeles, 1964(?)

Over here Mr. President!

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...911/VW2u8w.jpg
eBay

Could this be a visit by LBJ when he was Vice President? It seems unlikely he'd be allowed to ride in an open car through a crowd like this after the JFK assassination. Some of the cars in the other photos are from the early '60s so it's not the 1960 campaign.

October 29, 1964:
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1551/...91cf5232_o.png

Read the rest of it here

All sorts of interesting tidbits here—

Note how the 200 block north of the Hosfield is undergoing demolition:

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1696/...2e0112e6_o.png

The Currier Bldg was still neighbor to the Bradbury, along Third:

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1535/...fb9415a1_o.png

A Cozy close-up:

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1697/...5e7aba7e_o.png

It's fun to play "Spot the Secret Service Agent"—

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1597/...ac148729_b.jpg

It amazes me that even after Dallas, they tolerated folk rushing the Presidential limo.

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1614/...d25daddf_h.jpg

But Johnson was his own man. Hiya!

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1571/...89ec8e16_o.png

tovangar2 Jan 6, 2016 8:56 AM

:previous:

Do you have the answer to this Beaudry? (not that I think your expertise is mine on tap or anything):

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 6994825)
...the site is now occupied by the handsome bones of the 1906-1907 Blackstone Building, two doors down from the Bradbury.
Once five stories tall (floors 4 and 5 were demolished in 1971), it was a movie theater for almost 50 years:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-H...34839%2BPM.jpg
gsv

This names K S Eyer as the architect, but the 7/17/06 permit lists R B Young as architect, with P M Johnson as the builder for owner A P Johnson of Riverside (maybe Beaudry will sort that out for me). Architect A C Martin did many of the 1920s changes, but not the 1926 theater conversion:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-s...40253%2BPM.jpg
historic resources

The permit:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-q...5%252520AM.jpg
ladbs

John Maddox Roberts Jan 6, 2016 4:41 PM

The Cozy was definitely a low-rent sort of theater. "Cavalry Command" dates from 1958, "Hot Car" from 1954.

Bristolian Jan 6, 2016 4:44 PM

October 29, 1964:
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1551/...91cf5232_o.png

Read the rest of it here

All sorts of interesting tidbits here—

No surprise that the sleuths here have shown that undoubtedly this did take place in 1964 but still shocking considering Dallas. From the article, it certainly seems like it was Johnson's call.

ethereal_reality Jan 6, 2016 5:48 PM

:previous: That article is amazing in all it's details. It really added substance to the slides.

Everyone should read the entire article.
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1594/...4002085c_o.png

like this tidbit.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/320...910/x5xICX.jpg That's a lot of windows!

Thanks for digging it up (and including the link) Beaudry.

HossC Jan 6, 2016 6:13 PM

Tourmaline posted the image above back in August. It was part of a collection of photographs of the newly completed bridge over Silverlake Boulevard at Sunset and surrounding businesses. The full post is here. There were follow-ups in post #30377, post #30380 and post #30391.

The description for this image says "Intersection of Reservoir Street (Silverlake Boulevard) and Sunset Boulevard looking south, showing the site of a proposed grade separation, 1931". As far as I can tell, we're looking down Silverlake Boulevard, with Sunset Boulevard running horizontally across the background.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
USC Digital Library

Here's the intersection on the 1921 Baist map, when Silverlake Boulevard was still called Elk Avenue. The name changed sometime before 1928, because the Hill street map shows Silverlake Boulevard. I've highlighted the section visible in the picture above and marked the photographer's viewing direction.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original
www.historicmapworks.com

I found these construction pictures yesterday on the same site that GW's flooded street images came from.
NB. The links below are to the PDF files which contain the images.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original
lacity.org

This one appears to capture a streetcar on Sunset crossing the new bridge.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...4.jpg~original
lacity.org

HossC Jan 6, 2016 8:25 PM

From the early Julius Shulman photosets of the last two days, I'm moving forward to one of his later ones today. This is "Job 6022: 131 Fremont Place House (Los Angeles, Calif.),1981".

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original

Both from Getty Research Institute

The first property website I checked was zillow.com, and they have 48 interior and exterior pictures of the house. All the sites I looked at say it was built in 1923, and some give valuations around the $6 million mark (the house sold for $3,650,000 in 2012). All the ivy has gone, and the front path has been replaced by a parking area. Even with the ivy in the 1981 image, I can only see red brick underneath, so the yellowish areas must've been added since.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original
www.zillow.com

Fremont Place is gated, so there are no GSV images available. Instead, here's an aerial view. The house is near the southern end of Fremont Place West - W Olympic Boulevard is just out-of-shot to the left in the view below.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...4.jpg~original
Bing Maps

ethereal_reality Jan 6, 2016 9:03 PM

:previous: Why pave over your front yard? It's awful.

That said, the fireplace is amazing. It's an unusual blend of zig-zag lines/spirals with classical elements.
I don't believe I've ever seen one quite like it.
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HossC Jan 6, 2016 9:46 PM

:previous:

I have some bad news, e_r. That fireplace now looks like this.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...5.jpg~original
www.zillow.com

I think it might still be restorable.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...6.jpg~original
www.zillow.com

The fireplaces vary throughout the house.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...7.jpg~original
www.zillow.com

There are even a couple of wooden ones.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...8.jpg~original
www.zillow.com

GaylordWilshire Jan 6, 2016 9:48 PM

:previous:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Q...15forFBetc.jpg

The story of 131 Fremont Place is here: http://fremontplace.blogspot.com/201...e-see-our.html


For a history of Fremont Place and an inventory of its addresses with tales of each, please see www.fremontplace.blogspot.com


PS Has this house ever had a decent decorator?

Beaudry Jan 6, 2016 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7289477)
:previous:

Do you have the answer to this Beaudry? (not that I think your expertise is mine on tap or anything):


This names K S Eyer as the architect, but the 7/17/06 permit lists R B Young as architect, with P M Johnson as the builder for owner A P Johnson of Riverside (maybe Beaudry will sort that out for me). Architect A C Martin did many of the 1920s changes, but not the 1926 theater conversion:

The permit:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-q...5%252520AM.jpg
ladbs

K S Eyer? Huh. That's an odd take on it. As far as I know, it's always been the Johnson Building/Blackstone Department Store attributed to RB Young, 1906. (Along with many a nearby "Johnson Bldg" by Young—the Westminster Hotel of 1887, its addition of 1893, and annex of 1894; the AP Johnson Block at 350 S Bway of 1896, Hotel Clarendon at 408 S Hill of 1896, Johnson Building at 354 S Bway of 1901 and of course the Forve-Pettebone Store at 510-514 S Bway of 1905.)

ethereal_reality Jan 6, 2016 10:22 PM

"Downtown Los Angeles, January 1978."

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...908/Z9LtOq.jpg
http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...esome!/page389 via sjnnyny, Flickr

I found the State Hotel in the 1961 directory listed as 737 S. Olive Street. (now gone)



In the distance the twin rooftop tennis courts of the Los Angeles Athletic Club are visible.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...910/gom8zB.jpg

We're also looking at the rear of the Foreman Building over on South Hill.
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The little art deco Cynthia's and Betty's Coffee Shop have been replaced by a parking lot.

2011
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...633/0Sjldq.jpg
gsv




Today it's a construction site.

2014
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...910/vmqh53.jpg

for this.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...633/NYRfsV.jpg
http://la.curbed.com/archives/2015/1...ds_opening.php

ethereal_reality Jan 7, 2016 12:04 AM

Does anyone recognize this steep street?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...908/bODdoh.jpg
http://pre-code.com/what-no-beer-193...jimmy-durante/

This is from a Buster Keaton-Jimmy Durante movie titled "What, No Beer!" (MGM 1933)


....and here's a view of what's waiting at the bottom of the hill.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...907/t5addg.jpg
http://pre-code.com/what-no-beer-193...jimmy-durante/

:previous: I can't tell if the small grocery store is a facsimile or the real thing. (also note the Grand Hotel billboard)







What brought my attention to this film was the GIF below.

http://imageshack.com/a/img911/7692/u1DrXE.gif
http://pre-code.com/what-no-beer-193...jimmy-durante/

:previous: Also note the people walking along the street behind the grocery store. (that makes me think it's a regular neighborhood)
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tovangar2 Jan 7, 2016 3:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaudry (Post 7290265)
K S Eyer? Huh. That's an odd take on it. As far as I know, it's always been the Johnson Building/Blackstone Department Store attributed to RB Young, 1906. (Along with many a nearby "Johnson Bldg" by Young—the Westminster Hotel of 1887, its addition of 1893, and annex of 1894; the AP Johnson Block at 350 S Bway of 1896, Hotel Clarendon at 408 S Hill of 1896, Johnson Building at 354 S Bway of 1901 and of course the Forve-Pettebone Store at 510-514 S Bway of 1905.)

Thank you Beaudry. I only included the DLANC listing in that post b/c I thought it must be based on something. Something I hadn't discovered yet.

I've finally gotten around to writing to the DLANC to ask them what their basing their listing on. The Blackstone is on the National Register, but only as part of a group that includes 300 to 849 S Broadway.

Noircitydame Jan 7, 2016 7:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7290652)
Thank you Beaudry. I only included the DLANC listing in that post b/c I thought it must be based on something. Something I hadn't discovered yet.

I've finally gotten around to writing to the DLANC to ask them what their basing their listing on. The Blackstone is on the National Register, but only as part of a group that includes 300 to 849 S Broadway.

I came across a newspaper reference to 318 South Broadway, the "new A.P. Johnson building" under construction. Dated April 11, 1907 it does refer to R.B. Young as architect.

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...-4-11-1907.jpg LAT

HossC Jan 7, 2016 1:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7290409)

Does anyone recognize this steep street?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...908/bODdoh.jpg
http://pre-code.com/what-no-beer-193...jimmy-durante/

This is from a Buster Keaton-Jimmy Durante movie titled "What, No Beer!" (MGM 1933)

I haven't had any luck finding the location above, but a similar gag was used two years later in The Three Stooges' short 'Three Little Beers'.

Video Link


It's not the same location as the Buster Keaton/Jimmy Durante movie. Several sources, including the comments for the video clip above, say this was filmed in Echo Park, with Wikipedia saying the cross street is Echo Park Avenue. I took the Googlemobile for a quick spin, but didn't find any matches in my brief search. The scenes with the police officer at the bottom of the hill were obviously filmed somewhere else.

Tourmaline Jan 7, 2016 5:03 PM

:previous: Several locations were intercut in the Stooges' short. Notice the non-appearance/appearance of street car tracks. FWIW, at 0:05 there is rear screen projection of "the Modern Grocery." A listing for that name appears in the 1914CD as 846 E. 42nd Street, but the terrain seem flat. And from first impressions, that structure seems not destined for longevity, so it is difficult to say that that address was actually depicted in the short. It is not even clear in many shots whether we are seeing the stooges or their stunt triples. :P It seems that most, if not all, studios borrowed from preexisting stock footage, when available. Recall a recent NLA discussion of the train wreck in one of Hal Roach's Our Gang adventures "possibly" near Culver City. Without confirmation, auto crashes were also staged using hilly streets adjacent to or in San Pedro and Long Beach. :shrug:



While exploring the whereabouts of the Charles Ray's and Miles (Myles) Standish's Mayflower replica, I was reminded of another long-lost nautically-connected drama, Theda Bara's 1917 Cleopatra. According to one source, some of Cleopatra was photographed on California's Nile aka The Dominguez Slough. (Yes, there was another name.:( ) Has anyone seen any location stills/footage of this area with Cleo's barge?


Quote:

The picture was filmed on the Dominquez slough just outside Long Beach, California. The throne prop used in the film ended up, years later, in the possession of Leon Schlesinger Productions, the production company behind the Looney Tunes and Merrie Melodies cartoons; its disposition after the acquisition of that company by Warner Bros. is unknown. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleopatra_%281917_film%29


More on the area?


Quote:

Due to the acres of berry farms, the city was nicknamed "Berryland" and there used to be an annual Strawberry Day Festival and Parade. Although the Laguna Dominguez slough and channel fed the area and gave it its green character, it was filled in in the 1920s. Nonetheless, Gardena today still boasts several nurseries and parks that reflect its past. Gardena [along with the neighboring communities of Strawberry Park (to the northwest) and Moneta (to the south)] was incorporated into the City of Gardena in 1930. http://www.amoeba.com/blog/2010/05/e...ortunity-.html
http://www.amoeba.com/admin/uploads/...arly1900s.jpeghttp://www.amoeba.com/admin/uploads/...arly1900s.jpeg



More on Gardena Valley's strawberry fields here: http://margaretandersen.com/thegrid/...wberry-fields/

http://margaretandersen.com/thegrid/...rawberries.pnghttp://margaretandersen.com/thegrid/...rawberries.png


Before and after of Herb Jeffer's grocery store at 825 Gardena Blvd. http://margaretandersen.com/thegrid/...-gardena-blvd/ The source does not provide any background on Jeffers or the building's construction date. (Available permits only go back to '43.) Jeffers is listed in the 1914-15 GardenaCD as a Grain dlr with home at 165th Street. The 1919CD references H Jeffers as a co-proprietor for the Compton-Gardena Milling Co (at a different location.)

http://margaretandersen.com/thegrid/...2/jefferse.pnghttp://margaretandersen.com/thegrid/...2/jefferse.png


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