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tovangar2 Nov 5, 2015 1:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7223618)
'mystery' monument.

I noticed this rocket-like "pillar" on a triangular piece of land off the northeast corner of Evergreen Cemetery.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...903/2tmOPi.jpg
gsv
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It's the "all wars" memorial:
http://egpnews.com/2013/03/east-l-a-...rial-restored/

Also:
http://www.theeastsiderla.com/2014/0...ght-direction/

CityBoyDoug Nov 5, 2015 2:25 AM

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Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7223185)
This is the office of architect Craig Ellwood, designed by Craig Ellwood. Under the main name it says "Emiel Becsky Architect Associate". It's Julius Shulman's "Job 757: Craig Ellwood, Craig Ellwood Offices (Los Angeles, Calif.),1950".

Craig Ellwood was not a licensed or trained architect. In spite of that his firm produced a lot of notable buildings. When I studied architecture in the 1960s his name was HOT . All the embryo architects were talking about him.
He designed the new Art Center College of Design - Pasadena, CA

A sample of his lasting impression on Los Angeles.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psqgl3ymyq.jpg
google

BoC Nov 5, 2015 5:04 PM

HossC and tovangar2 posted images of the Bank of Italy logo-medallion used in the first half of the 20th Century on buildings that later became Bank of America.

I took photos of bronze panels with the logo on them that I bought from demolition crew of the old B of A building in Riverside, CA which was torn down in the late 70s or early 80s.

This photobucket URL should get the images: http://s1380.photobucket.com

HossC Nov 5, 2015 7:34 PM

For today's Julius Shulman photoset we're off to the Bank of Encino in Sherman Oaks. This is "Job 2359: Leon Edgar, Bank of Encino (Los Angeles, Calif.), 1957".

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original

Here's a better view of the sign.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original

I like this unusual exposed staircase at the back.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original

And now some interior shots. The first is looking out through the front windows. Note the pointed structure on the right - I'll be returning to it below.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...4.jpg~original

Looking towards the rear - the external staircase can just be seen at the back.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...5.jpg~original

A wider shot of the scene above.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...6.jpg~original

The building must've been brand new as there's no furniture behind the counters.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...7.jpg~original

Here's the pointed structure from the earlier picture. It was a "Day and Night Deposit" box.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...8.jpg~original

All from Getty Research Institute

No address was provided in the description, and the pictures only identify it as 14708. The building below at 14708 Ventura Boulevard was the first one I checked out. The property websites give a build date of 1956, but I wasn't convinced ...

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...9.jpg~original
GSV

... until I went back to the October 2011 GSV image. Although the building was empty, I was amazed that the original design had survived virtually intact until just a few years ago.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...0.jpg~original
GSV

The new design has also changed the front third of the side of the building, but the back is pretty much unchanged. This shot's a little blurry because it's at maximum zoom with the Googlemobile parked on Dickens Street. The corner staircase is clearly visible.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
GSV

AlvaroLegido Nov 5, 2015 8:12 PM

Los 5 puntos
 
By the way(s), in spanish, the name of the shop on the left means "The five points" of this complicated intersection.
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7223618)
'mystery' monument.
Here's one last look at both the thingy and the pillar.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...903/2tmOPi.jpg
gsv

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...905/N5I3LI.jpg
google_earth
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odinthor Nov 5, 2015 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7223332)
:previous: Amazing story! I've never heard of purified extract of turkey opium before.
-thanks for the link GW.

By coincidence, I happened across this fine photograph of the old courthouse on eBay last night.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...903/HtT193.jpg

you can bid on it here.
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/B-W-8X10-PHOT...4AAOSwYIdWFbZu

I believe that's the middle portion of the ca. 1869 Rendall panorama, a copy of which I have on the wall behind me [points over shoulder], see? The puff of smoke is the very same shape. The whole thing goes from the Bilderrain house at the corner of Justicia and Temple (at the left of the whole panorama) around to where S. Hill St. would be (at the right of the whole panorama), giving us North, East, and South. I've always wondered if he also photographed West, but thought no one would be interested in that portion of the panorama ("Who wants to see dry hills and chaparral?", he probably reflected), so never printed that part.

ethereal_reality Nov 5, 2015 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7223694)

:previous: Thanks for the links t2.

Looks like they're going to do quite a number on that intersection.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...903/KhqGNZ.jpg
theeastsiderla

...but I didn't find a reference to the vent-thingy.

ethereal_reality Nov 5, 2015 11:56 PM

L.A. County Lifeguards [c.1920s]

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...633/0FRWXL.jpg
ebay


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...910/TxlzRX.jpg
ebay



http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...911/y1AhzP.jpg
ebay



http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...905/DLkUFZ.jpg
ebay

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Tetsu Nov 6, 2015 1:09 AM

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Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7222439)
I also noticed in that photo tetsu, the one-time home of J.W. Gillette (lower left, collanaded, east-facing porch, squared-off gable), builder of Angels Flight for Col Eddy. It has been engulfed by urbanization (Mount Lee and Mount Hollywood back the scene).



Thx for posting this Hoss.

A closer view (a bit earlier than the one above):
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-q...4%252520PM.jpg
uscdl (detail)

An even closer view of some of the shops:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-c...4%252520PM.jpg
uscdl (detail)

Back in 1878-1879 the Gillette home was in a very suburban setting. Hill St, coming down off Court Hill, is a lane at best. The Horticultural Pavilion (Ezra Kysor, 1879), on Fort Moore Hill, is at upper right, just nearing completion:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-5...2%252520PM.jpg
seaver center

The in-between stage, 1892. Temple street frontages have been graded and Hill Street is now a proper, if somewhat disjointed, street:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-7...9%252520PM.jpg
uscdl (detail)

The Gillette home. A detail from the photo above:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-v...0%252520AM.jpg
uscdl (detail)

322 Temple was demolished and replaced with a garage in the 1920s.


The two homes on the north side of Temple, just west of Hill St also appear in all three photos.



The Gillette home site is now within the footprint of the current Hall of Records.

Great eye! I've wondered about that house. So, is this the same house or is my geography off?

http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/...pscgt9zbzr.jpguscdl

This shot is dated in my files as 1908. The teeth along the roofline look right, but the porch seems a bit off, not to mention the distance of the house from Temple Street at foreground. Seems like, in order for it to make sense, it would have to have been moved back at some point, and possibly altered?

ethereal_reality Nov 6, 2015 1:41 AM

While I was snooping around in the vicinity of Evergreen Cemetery I came across this interesting place. At first glance I thought it was a run-down mansion.
Then I noticed the wide front steps and uniform windows & thought it also had some characteristics of a school.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/blYEOE.png
gsv

Well it turns out, the building used to be the "Forsyth Memorial School for Girls"

"The institution was established in 1914 by the local Presbyterian Church, as a facility to "Americanize" Latinas." -say what!?
At the time it was described as "a boarding school for 75 Mexican Girls".



rare early lantern slide of the Forsyth School
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...903/dx2ElO.jpg
http://boyleheightshistoryblog.blogs...&max-results=9

The 1914 Mission Revival structure was designed by architect Henry M. Patterson, who worked on many regional Presbyterian churches.

The Forsyth School for Girls closed it's doors in 1934, a victim of the depression.
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....and the interesting history doesn't stop there:

With the conclusion of the second world war came a new, temporary use for the former Forsyth School for Girls.
Reconstituted as the "Evergreen Hostel," the site was utilized for the resettlement of Japanese-Americans sent away to internment camps during the war.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...903/dn0JTa.jpg
http://boyleheightshistoryblog.blogs...&max-results=9

:previous: Jun Oyama and two unidentified boys at the Evergreen Hostel, Boyle Heights.

The initial capacity of 60-75 was enlarged to over a 100 with furniture used in the internment camps transferred to the facility. It operated for roughly two years.

To see additional photos and info. on the Japanese-Americans at the Evergreen Hostel go here:
https://atomikaztex.wordpress.com/20...stel-postcard/

More recently, the facility has been known as the Fellowship House of Los Angeles / Union Church of Los Angeles.

here's a recent side view.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...905/MCs7SO.jpg
gsv


.......and an aerial.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...911/P6xNk4.jpg
google_earth

I was surprised by this aerial: I wasn't expecting an interior courtyard.
that said, the "courtyard" was probably part of the backyard before that ram-shackled addition was built.

I wonder if the "Union Church" owns that empty lot?



Special thanks to boyleheightshistoryblog.
http://boyleheightshistoryblog.blogs...chool-for.html

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ethereal_reality Nov 6, 2015 2:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7223693)

What's up with the unfortunately placed steeple? Did it replace the brick chimney?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/633/KXtk4S.jpg
eBay


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CityBoyDoug Nov 6, 2015 2:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7223332)
:previous: Amazing story! I've never heard of purified extract of turkey opium before.
-thanks for the link GW.

By coincidence, I happened across this fine photograph of the old courthouse on eBay last night.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...903/HtT193.jpg

you can bid on it here.
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/B-W-8X10-PHOT...4AAOSwYIdWFbZu

Ten million dollar City Hall. I think they meant to write Ten Thousand. :previous:

ethereal_reality Nov 6, 2015 2:18 AM

CBD, I think they're referring to the 1928 City Hall.

tovangar2 Nov 6, 2015 4:13 AM

Temple and Hill
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tetsu (Post 7225190)
I've wondered about that house. So, is this the same house or is my geography off?

http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/...pscgt9zbzr.jpguscdl

This shot is dated in my files as 1908. The teeth along the roofline look right, but the porch seems a bit off, not to mention the distance of the house from Temple Street at foreground. Seems like, in order for it to make sense, it would have to have been moved back at some point, and possibly altered?

I can't say for sure tetsu. One of the great things about the photo Hoss posted was I thought I could finally see the south and east sides of the house behind the Montana Grocery:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-G...1%252520PM.jpg
uscdl (detail) full image previously posted by HossC

Baist, 1910
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-9...8%252520PM.jpg
historic mapworks

Note the Baist map above shows the commercial building on the Gillette home's east side seemingly further away than in the 1890s photo below
(I can't explain that):
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-q...4%252520PM.jpg
uscdl (detail)

SE corner Temple and Hill, November 2014
Hall of Records (1961) Richard Neutra and Robert Alexander:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-F...6%252520PM.jpg
gsv

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-w...7%252520AM.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-0...1%252520AM.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-A...1%252520AM.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-L...5%252520AM.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/--...1%252520AM.jpg
ladbs

ethereal_reality Nov 6, 2015 4:27 AM

re: "Mae West's Apartments"

Earlier this evening I happened across this exceptional postcard on eBay.

At first I thought this was the back side of the Ravenswood Apartments as viewed from Arden Boulevard.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...908/fZ53ja.jpg





But after checking google_earth, I realized it's actually a side view taken from Clinton Street.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...903/7Bzoud.jpg




Believe it or not, back in the day, the lighted Ravenswood sign and the giant revolving "R" (now gone) were visible from Hollywood and Vine.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...911/ZOu0eO.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si...id/21393/rec/1




In case you have bad eyes like me, here's a close-up with some pointers. ;)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...911/vD6jmt.jpg
detail

I don't know what that lighted area is above "Ravenswood" (it almost looks like a bat)

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CityBoyDoug Nov 6, 2015 5:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7225270)
CBD, I think they're referring to the 1928 City Hall.

You're correct....the future home of the later City Hall. :previous:

Flyingwedge Nov 6, 2015 5:51 AM

Temple and Hill
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7222439)
Back in 1878-1879 the Gillette home was in a very suburban setting. Hill St, coming down off Court Hill, is a lane at best. The Horticultural Pavilion (Ezra Kysor, 1879), on Fort Moore Hill, is at upper right, just nearing completion:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-5...2%252520PM.jpg
seaver center

The in-between stage, 1892. Temple street frontages have been graded and Hill Street is now a proper, if somewhat disjointed, street:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-7...9%252520PM.jpg
uscdl (detail)

I think this view of Temple and Hill and the Gillette Home falls here chronologically, compared with the
other photos posted by T2 and HossC:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...0.jpg~original
Seaver Center -- http://collections.nhm.org/seaver-ce...php?irn=509690

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7217041)


tovangar2 Nov 6, 2015 6:09 AM

:previous:

Another nice one. Thank you FW.

All gone now:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-C...4%252520PM.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-T...7%252520PM.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-x...0%252520PM.jpg
ladbs

Baist, 1921:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-O...0%252520AM.jpg
historic mapworks


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Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7225393)
I don't know what that lighted area is above "Ravenswood" (it almost looks like a bat)

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I think that's the El Royale

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-u...0%252520PM.jpg
publicartinLA

Those Who Squirm! Nov 6, 2015 6:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 7223802)
[SIZE="3"]Craig Ellwood was not a licensed or trained architect. In spite of that his firm produced a lot of notable buildings. When I studied architecture in the 1960s his name was HOT.

I'm surprised he was able to run a firm if he wasn't licensed--otherwise, what's the purpose of the licensing system? That said, from my layman's perspective I like these designs very much indeed.

CityBoyDoug Nov 6, 2015 7:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Those Who Squirm (Post 7225499)
I'm surprised he was able to run a firm if he wasn't licensed--otherwise, what's the purpose of the licensing system? That said, from my layman's perspective I like these designs very much indeed.

Mr Ellwood did what I used to do. I made construction and interior drawings for a house in 1974 [see photos below]. The client was a Hollywood director..[.they still own it]. To get it built I paid a licensed engineer to sign the plans [$365]. Ellwood did the same...he had licensed architects working in his office.

In 1985 I designed an addition to a Long Beach house....the city building officer himself was kind enough to sign-off on my design. I had studied architecture for almost 4 years so I know how to draw plans.


11330 Dona Lisa, Studio City ..[.the cheesy facade was designed by a movie studio set designer...not myself.]
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psoanlxipw.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psrdpwfrm5.jpg
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