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ethereal_reality Apr 23, 2012 7:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5676159)

This is especially sad. :(
It looks as if they destroyed the ornament from the entire first floor, probably from one end of the building to the other.
A last glimmer of hope is the garage entrance....remember, KevinW spotted remnants of it's zigzag metal ornament still in place.
-fingers crossed-

3940dxer Apr 23, 2012 9:36 PM

Hollywood Historic Review Vol 5 No. 1
 
http://dkse.net/david/HHR.V5.1/HHR.V5.1.1.jpg

http://dkse.net/david/HHR.V5.1/HHR.V5.1.4.jpg

http://dkse.net/david/HHR.V5.1/HHR.V5.1.5.jpg

http://dkse.net/david/HHR.V5.1/HHR.V5.1.6.jpg

All from personal collection.

jg6544 Apr 23, 2012 9:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5675903)
Looking west on Hollywood Blvd. toward Ivar Avenue & the Guaranty Building.


http://imageshack.us/a/img513/8485/a...erhollywoo.jpg
http://life.time.com/




I want to point out the building on the southeast corner of Hollywood & Ivar (circled in red).

http://imageshack.us/a/img827/8485/a...erhollywoo.jpg



Many people forget that nitty-gritty Hollywood Boulevard used to be a fairly high class shopping district.
Believe it or not, I. Magnin once had a store directly across from the Guaranty Building (as seen below).


http://imageshack.us/a/img580/9153/a...ywoodpatri.jpg
http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...olNumber=61625



It was, I believe, the first actual I. Magnin branch outside of the Bay Area. The store had "shops" in a couple of hotels in southern California, but this was a real store. I. Magnin left it to move to its Wilshire Boulevard store in the 1930s. Subsequent owners have really trashed it, although the "bones" are still there.

fhammon Apr 23, 2012 10:40 PM

Nick's Cafe

Located at 1300 N. Spring St. right across from the "not a cornfield" Cornfield.

http://blogs.laweekly.com/squidink/a...mb-520x358.jpg

http://blogs.laweekly.com/squidink/2..._breakfast.php

I ate there for the first time Sunday with my wife. Home-style coffee-shop fare with huge portions. Way more than I could eat.
They claim having been open since 1948. I can't seem to find any old photos of it at all.
There must be some out there. I have a feeling that the building is older than '48. It could have operated as a cafe under a different name previously.

ethereal_reality Apr 23, 2012 11:58 PM

I thoroughly enjoyed reading the 'Hollywood Historic Review' newsletter you posted 3940dxer/David.


This 1963 residence by Lloyd Wright (Frank's son) intrigued me so I thought I'd take a closer look.

http://imageshack.us/a/img690/2289/a...ehollywood.jpg
from David's personal collection



below: Here is a 'google street view' of the house at7017 Senalda Road.

http://imageshack.us/a/img27/112/aas...elloydwrig.jpg




below: A detail showing the attractive triangular ornamentation (too bad about the location of the gas meter).

http://imageshack.us/a/img3/6417/aas...edetailwit.jpg
google street view




below: From this view it appears that a new pool house has been built behind the 1963 house. Notice how the angles of the pool house mimic
the angles of the main house. I would say this looks like a job well done.

http://imageshack.us/a/img33/2710/aa...ewithpoolh.jpg
google aerial

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The rest of this post can be filed under "how one thing leads to another".


In this broader aerial I noticed that above 7017 Senalda Road (the red A teardrop) there is a Hollywood Bowl overlook on MulHolland Drive.
I thought perhaps I could get a better view of the new pool house at 7017 Senalda from this overlook area.

http://imageshack.us/a/img267/82/aas...eaerialwit.jpg
google aerial



I traveled up to MulHolland via the 'Google-mobile' and quickly found the overlook. I wasn't able to find a good view of 7017 or it's pool house,
but I was impressed by this overlook that I previously didn't know existed.

http://imageshack.us/a/img443/2289/a...ehollywood.jpg
google street view


There was a parking area, complete with a drinking fountain and even a telescope.

http://imageshack.us/a/img341/72/aas...eh2overloo.jpg
google street view







But now for the BIG SURPRISE. As I pulled the camera back there was even more to this Hollywood Bowl Overlook than I thought.



http://imageshack.us/a/img819/72/aas...eh2overloo.jpg
google aerial

This place looks phenomenal! Can you imagine going up there at night during a performance at the Hollywood Bowl....talk about romantic.

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GaylordWilshire Apr 24, 2012 12:18 AM

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/1415/macy1bfz.jpghttp://img444.imageshack.us/img444/6981/macy2.jpg

fhammon: There are a couple of shots at the LAPL of Nick's, but nothing very interesting (well, seven years ago there was razor wire strung along the cornice).

I did find the pic at top, though--a great noir-era shot with the P.O. Terminal Annex, a Dodge (or other Chrysler product) business coupe, chop suey, and the Vera Cruz Café at N. Spring and Chavez.


Pics: LAPL/Google SV

ethereal_reality Apr 24, 2012 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fhammon (Post 5676880)
Nick's Cafe

Located at 1300 N. Spring St. right across from the "not a cornfield" Cornfield.

http://blogs.laweekly.com/squidink/a...mb-520x358.jpg

This place is quite cute. Notice the 'open' sign shaped like a pig. :)

http://imageshack.us/a/img21/1643/70622542.jpg
google street view

GaylordWilshire Apr 24, 2012 12:38 AM

The Harrington Brown house, 3985 S. Vermont
 
http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/3...brownphoto.jpgLAPL


Lots of interesting L.A. history in this house. Fruit grower and oil refiner Harrington Brown found the land barren except for one pepper tree. He built a grand house and planted lots of vegetation. Seventy-two years later, it was barren land again (a parking lot still there today, enhanced by a Little Caesars). For more: http://losangeleshistory.blogspot.co...histories.html

ethereal_reality Apr 24, 2012 1:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gaylordwilshire (Post 5677002)
(a parking lot still there today, enhanced by a little caesars).

lol

GaylordWilshire Apr 24, 2012 2:12 AM

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-4...ekinspaint.jpgLAPL


Now that I've got you in a good mood, e_r, I've got a question.... I don't keep kosher and, being Episcopalian, I'm not entirely sure what it entails, but is it kosher to offer a link here to one's own website? Not that I haven't been cheeky enough to do it before, justifying it because my site is, after all, completely non-commercial... just L.A. history, pure as the driven snow.

Charging ahead... I have a couple of updates to my history of Berkeley Square:

A few more maps are here.

A new post with my ideas on the demise of Berkeley Square and the changing fortunes of West Adams are here.

Main page and index are here.

ersatz01 Apr 24, 2012 2:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5676128)
:previous:

Quick--somebody get down there with a camera. David?

Here you go, ya'll - the building without the hideous red awning. I took these images this morning while walking to work. (Bear with me - this is my first time posting photos on this forum).

W.P. Story Building - southeast corner of 6th & Broadway - as of April 23, 2012.

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/3636/photo20j.jpg

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/3608/photo21xa.jpg

GaylordWilshire Apr 24, 2012 2:35 AM

:previous:

That is great, ersatz, thank you. Excellent first photo-posts. Well, the seven arched-but-bricked-up openings are interesting. Were they from a previous remodeling? Do we have any pics of such an incarnation? As for the garage opening--it's great to see the grille over it uncovered again....

alanlutz Apr 24, 2012 2:36 AM

That looks a lot better without the red awning all around. The Google Earth view still shows it on there but that's usually a year or two older. Now they need to restore the area above the windows the its original glory.

westcork Apr 24, 2012 2:39 AM

^^^
I bet some HGTV designer re-purposed that art deco garage door for some suburban ranch house redesign...

ethereal_reality Apr 24, 2012 3:21 AM

Thanks for posting your photographs ersatz01.


http://imageshack.us/a/img171/6035/a...odaybyersa.jpg
photo by ersatz01


below: The original 1908 design
http://imageshack.us/a/img191/7444/a...lstorybldg.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/search...ner-m3353.html

Where in the heck did those arches come from? I figured the 1934 makeover by Stile O. Clements was mostly cosmetic.
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ethereal_reality Apr 24, 2012 3:24 AM

I just found another piece of the puzzle and almost fell off my chair! Here is the base of the Walter P. Story Building as it appeared in the 1950s.

Is this Clement's streamline moderne renovation from 1934...or is this yet another makeover?

http://imageshack.us/a/img515/6412/a...lenusccopy.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/search...=1335237065143

I'd give anything to see a color photograph of this facade. If this is indeed Clement's design...I am visualizing a reflective silver metal!

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ethereal_reality Apr 24, 2012 3:31 AM

Here is the above photograph in it's entirety.

http://imageshack.us/a/img15/6171/aalookmullenusc.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/search...=1335237065143

This still doesn't explain the bricked up arches that were uncovered earlier this week.

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ethereal_reality Apr 24, 2012 3:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5677125)
Now that I've got you in a good mood, e_r, I've got a question.... I don't keep kosher and, being Episcopalian, I'm not entirely sure what it entails, but is it kosher to offer a link here to one's own website? Not that I haven't been cheeky enough to do it before, justifying it because my site is, after all, completely non-commercial... just L.A. history, pure as the driven snow.

Of course it's OK Gaylord_Wilshire! Everyone here should visit your wonderful blog.

http://berkeleysquarelosangeles.blogspot.com/

I am forever grateful for all your contributions to 'noirish Los Angeles'.
Your interest in this thread over all these years has been nothing short of amazing!

3940dxer Apr 24, 2012 4:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5676968)
I thoroughly enjoyed reading the 'Hollywood Historic Review' newsletter you posted 3940dxer/David...As I pulled the camera back there was even more to this Hollywood Bowl Overlook than I thought.


http://imageshack.us/a/img819/72/aas...eh2overloo.jpg
google aerial

This place looks phenomenal! Can you imagine going up there at night during a performance at the Hollywood Bowl....talk about romantic.

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That's very funny because on Saturday my wife and I hiked to that very spot on an "unofficial" trail I discovered that leads up there from the Bowl. It's actually quite a nice little walk, with seldom seen views of the 101 and Hollywood along the way.

Yes, there's an elevated lookout spot near the turnout, busy with "See Hollywood" tour vans and loads of out of towners. Actually I like seeing them around here, and feel glad that visitors come here to see the sights. Heck, I've lived here for 35 years, and still enjoy seeing the sights.

Speaking of unofficial trails, we also explored the longer "off limits" trail on the Eastern side of the pass this past weekend. Though trashy in places, and with remains of some homeless camps, it has some nice views of the Hollywood Freeway and passes by the big cross on the hill. We saw several deer running around up there. Here are some "unauthorized" views.

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Looking North towards Universal City. In the lower center, the Highland exit ramp peels away the the left. The wide island shaped area between the 101 and Cahuenga West, now a highway maintenance yard, may in fact be the former site of Monkey Island. (More on that soon.)

http://wwww.dkse.net/david/EastPass/100_6597.JPG


Looking East, the Hollywood Reservoir dam is on the right. (The one that gave way in Earthquake.) Years ago while jogging by the lake I saw an enormous turtle swimming across the surface near the corner of the reservoir, in the right foreground. There's a small caretaker's cottage in the lower right, hidden by trees.

The house near the upper left of the shot with the big white wall used to belong to Madonna, but I think she has sold it. (Was this the "Wolf Lair" home? If not, it's in that same area.)

http://wwww.dkse.net/david/EastPass/100_6601.JPG


The camera faces South here, towards Hollywood. That's the Pilgrimage Bridge across the 101, with the Ford Theater (hidden) on the left. Big townhouse development in the foreground (not too bad looking compared to so many of the hideous new projects in these hills), but I know nothing about it. The Southern part of Whitley Heights is behind the freeway, on the left.

http://wwww.dkse.net/david/EastPass/100_6602.JPG


The cross, and the plaque beneath it. I wonder who owns this land?

http://wwww.dkse.net/david/EastPass/100_6592.JPG


http://wwww.dkse.net/david/EastPass/100_6595.JPG

GaylordWilshire Apr 24, 2012 1:29 PM

http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/5994/ersatzp.jpgersatz01

A clue...?

"Mullen & Bluett were still tenants in the New Story Building in 1967 and embarked at that time on a $500,000 renovation that includes facade and interior work. A Times mention of the work spoke of glazed tile brick and white ceramic glazes."

This from what seems to be a definitive story on the Story in Blogdowntown.

In one of the comments to the Blogdowntown post is this intriguing item:
"Have you ever seen the sculpted stair well at the back of the lobby?" Calling all cameras!

A few more Story Building and Mullen Bluett items...

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/2...oldcard765.jpghttp://img717.imageshack.us/img717/8...hostsigncr.jpg
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/240/genstory480.jpghttp://img708.imageshack.us/img708/8469/storypcc702.jpg

The namesake, Walter P. Story--General Story to you. His full story here; another great shot of the Story includes a PCC car.


Four pics above, clockwise: LAT; Eric Richardson; USCDL; militarymuseum.org

Wenders Apr 24, 2012 1:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5676968)
I thoroughly enjoyed reading the 'Hollywood Historic Review' newsletter you posted 3940dxer/David.


This 1963 residence by Lloyd Wright (Frank's son) intrigued me so I thought I'd take a closer look.

http://imageshack.us/a/img690/2289/a...ehollywood.jpg
from David's personal collection



below: Here is a 'google street view' of the house at7017 Senalda Road.

http://imageshack.us/a/img27/112/aas...elloydwrig.jpg




below: A detail showing the attractive triangular ornamentation (too bad about the location of the gas meter).

http://imageshack.us/a/img3/6417/aas...edetailwit.jpg
google street view




below: From this view it appears that a new pool house has been built behind the 1963 house. Notice how the angles of the pool house mimic
the angles of the main house. I would say this looks like a job well done.

http://imageshack.us/a/img33/2710/aa...ewithpoolh.jpg
google aerial

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The rest of this post can be filed under "how one thing leads to another".


In this broader aerial I noticed that above 7017 Senalda Road (the red A teardrop) there is a Hollywood Bowl overlook on MulHolland Drive.
I thought perhaps I could get a better view of the new pool house at 7017 Senalda from this overlook area.

http://imageshack.us/a/img267/82/aas...eaerialwit.jpg
google aerial



I traveled up to MulHolland via the 'Google-mobile' and quickly found the overlook. I wasn't able to find a good view of 7017 or it's pool house,
but I was impressed by this overlook that I previously didn't know existed.

http://imageshack.us/a/img443/2289/a...ehollywood.jpg
google street view


There was a parking area, complete with a drinking fountain and even a telescope.

http://imageshack.us/a/img341/72/aas...eh2overloo.jpg
google street view







But now for the BIG SURPRISE. As I pulled the camera back there was even more to this Hollywood Bowl Overlook than I thought.



http://imageshack.us/a/img819/72/aas...eh2overloo.jpg
google aerial

This place looks phenomenal! Can you imagine going up there at night during a performance at the Hollywood Bowl....talk about romantic.

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That Senalda Rd. Wright house has been a home of director David Lynch for many years, as well as two other buildings right next it. One of them was used in "Lost Highway" (entrance slightly altered after filming) as a main character's home, and one of them is used as a recording studio.

FredH Apr 24, 2012 3:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5677207)
Thanks for posting your photographs ersatz01.


http://imageshack.us/a/img171/6035/a...odaybyersa.jpg
photo by ersatz01


below: The original 1908 design
http://imageshack.us/a/img191/7444/a...lstorybldg.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/search...ner-m3353.html

Where in the heck did those arches come from? I figured the 1934 makeover by Stile O. Clements was mostly cosmetic.
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Ethereal_Reality:

I found a bunch of pictures of this building, but nothing showing the arches. This picture from the Patton parade in June, 1945 already shows the facade:

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg191...pg&res=landing
militarymashup.com

The only thing I can think of (and it doesn't make complete sense) is that it was some kind of early earthquake retrofit done during the 1934 makeover. Possibly the building had some damage (1932 Long Beach quake?) and the arches were put in the strengthen the building. Why brick arches and not steel? :shrug:

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/7544/storybldg.jpg
Library of Congress

3940dxer Apr 24, 2012 5:35 PM

Thank you all
 
I just wanted to thank all the recent contributors for the many great new posts in the last few weeks. It seems like this thread has been getting busier, and it's harder to respond to everything of interest -- and nearly everything posted here is interesting.

GW, I read through your Berkeley Square page and was really impressed. Obviously a huge amount of research went into it and it's interesting to read all the little details. What an amazing little neighborhood, and what a shame that it's gone.

e_r, in many of your posts it seems you've been reading my mind; several of your topics have somehow focused on places I've recently visited. Weird. I was glad to read the posts about the Story Building, as I had seen that name repeatedly when researching Lookout Mountain and wondered what the "story" was. Where did you find that "Hollywood Citizen" page? Are there more issues and/or covers available somewhere?

fhammon, good to see your mention of Nick's. We almost went there for breakfast a couple weeks ago, while exploring the "Cornfield" area. (Oops, that reminds me, I have some pics of old buildings there, that I meant to post.)

ersatz01, thanks for the Story Building photo. You saved me a trip downtown! Or maybe I'll go anyway, and explore something else instead.

And finally, Wenders, thanks for the info about the 7017 Senalda house. I've been exploring near that area too (actually the High Tower / Hollywood Heights neighborhood, which I plan to write about soon).

Actually, I've been doing tons of L.A. explorations lately, some with friends I've newly recruited to the hobby, I just haven't been so great about documenting it all here. More soon, I promise.

Anyway, thanks again, everyone. Great stuff!

MOliscous Apr 24, 2012 7:35 PM

Quote:


You mention the tripartite building, AKA 205 S B'way, I'm sure plenty of people look at it and take it to be modern -- 207-11 S Bway is the Metropolitan Water Bldg, built 1905, and the structure facing Bway and Second, the three-part one, 201-205 S Bway/300 W 2nd is the California Bldg from 1911 (as is its neighbor to the northwest, 312 W 2nd)...sooooo is anything still inside still evident from its pre-WWI vintage?

No, in fact they are painting the interior hallways again. What used to be light blue and brown is now beige/tan. Everything is carpeted, drywalled with acoustic ceilings. The only time I've seen anything "old" is when I was in a utility room looking at old wiring. People are really surprised when I tell them how old this building really is.

ethereal_reality Apr 24, 2012 8:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3940dxer (Post 5677725)
e_r, in many of your posts it seems you've been reading my mind; several of your topics have somehow focused on places I've recently visited. Weird. I was glad to read the posts about the Story Building, as I had seen that name repeatedly when researching Lookout Mountain and wondered what the "story" was. Where did you find that "Hollywood Citizen" page? Are there more issues and/or covers available somewhere?

I returned to my original post/links to see if I could find more info. on the "Hollywood Citizen".

Here's where I found the "Hollywood Citizen" image. It's an inspiring article.

http://imageshack.us/a/img690/8326/aaimagcitiizen.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img9/1506/aaimagcitiizen2.jpg
http://www.hollywoodheritage.org/new...1/Schwabs.html


In my first post I was so busy commenting on I. Magnin & Co. and Schwab's Men's Store, I failed to notice that the "Hollywood Citizens"
building was right next door to Schwab's. Duh.

below: "Hollywood Citizen" next to Schwab's.

http://imageshack.us/a/img716/8485/a...erhollywoo.jpg

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Schwab's Men's Store today.

http://imageshack.us/a/img17/4015/aa...spacemitch.jpg
mitchumlover on http://www.flickr.com/


below: It looks like the wonderfully worn doors have been replaced.

http://imageshack.us/a/img11/3526/aaimagre2flickr.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/spatial...st/1602062727/

ethereal_reality Apr 24, 2012 8:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FredH (Post 5677584)

This is a great find FredH! I missed this when I was looking through the W.P. Story Building photos at the Library of Congress.
Thanks for posting it.

ethereal_reality Apr 24, 2012 8:51 PM

Postcard view of downtown Los Angeles and a rather diminutive Goodyear Blimp.

http://imageshack.us/a/img525/2718/aablimp1932.jpg
foud on ebay

GaylordWilshire Apr 24, 2012 9:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5677957)


How long do you think I would have to spend in Techachapi or San Quentin if I were to be caught chopping down that tree? All that restoration work and it's blocked! Anyway, ...perhaps the restoration techniques used on Schwab's will be used on the Story Building....

KevinW Apr 24, 2012 10:35 PM

After watching the Video of Nancy Sinatra singing "This Town" on top of Bunker Hill and at LACMA, I found this great video of her singing "Who will Buy" at Ocean Park in Santa Monica, c.1967:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_4OuEfH0ftZ...0/nancy+19.JPG

http://destinyclontz.blogspot.com/20...-will-buy.html

jg6544 Apr 24, 2012 10:42 PM

I'm sorry, ficus trees are the worst possible choice for sidewalk trees.

ersatz01 Apr 25, 2012 12:50 AM

W.P. Story Building, SEC 6th & Main - Interior Lobby, Staircase
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5677429)

In one of the comments to the Blogdowntown post is this intriguing item:
"Have you ever seen the sculpted stair well at the back of the lobby?" Calling all cameras!

Here you go... Some photos I took today of the interior lobby of the Story Building on SEC 6th and Broadway. I'm using an iPhone 4S, Camera+ app, and adding clarity to lighten up the rather dark interior, but no flash.

BTW, I live and work in DTLA, so anytime you have a current picture request, feel free to let me know. I'm happy to contribute to the NOW, especially since this is one of my favorite pastimes, and I'm so impressed with the contribution levels of people on this board, especially those who don't even live in L.A., e_r for example.

Here's the sculpted staircase:
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/9148/photo22h.jpg

Above that, there's an incredible ceiling:
http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/4066/photo23i.jpg

The lobby is small compared to today's Class A building standards, but you can tell this was a "Class A" building back in the day. The elevators are beautiful.
http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/1906/photo24k.jpg

Details on one of the 4 elevator doors:
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/8645/photo25l.jpg

ethereal_reality Apr 25, 2012 1:27 AM

:previous: I am speechless ersatz01!
The curved marble staircase and skylight are amazing (not to mention the brass elevator doors).

There must be hundreds of these 'hidden' interiors waiting to be discovered.
This is so exciting....don't you think? :)

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ethereal_reality Apr 25, 2012 1:27 AM

re: The Nancy Sinatra video at Ocean Park.
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Neptune's Courtyard at Pacific Ocean Park in 1959.
http://imageshack.us/a/img28/4533/sc...9gorillasd.jpg
gorillasdontblog




The 'Dali_esque' entrance to Pacific Ocean Park.

http://imageshack.us/a/img33/2401/aa...trancedipi.jpg
http://northhigh73.com/index.htm


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below: "These Boots are Made For Walkin" (1966)

http://imageshack.us/a/img29/9416/aa...eseyoutube.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnQcExGaEvk&feature=fvst

click on link_____

SoCalPaul Apr 25, 2012 5:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5677207)
Thanks for posting your photographs ersatz01.


http://imageshack.us/a/img171/6035/a...odaybyersa.jpg
photo by ersatz01


below: The original 1908 design
http://imageshack.us/a/img191/7444/a...lstorybldg.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/search...ner-m3353.html

Where in the heck did those arches come from? I figured the 1934 makeover by Stile O. Clements was mostly cosmetic.
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I'm neither an architect nor an engineer, so feel free to correct me, but looking at these two photos I believe the arches were the original underlying structure & the square blocks were just a facade. The top of the arch has a recess that probably held the terracotta keystone. When the streamline remodel was done, the first floor facade was removed which exposed the actual building structure & was then covered by the newer facade. I wish they would restore it.

PHX31 Apr 25, 2012 3:53 PM

/\ I think you are right... You can see in the original design there was a bit of a ledge under the second story. The ground floor facade came out from the building at least a foot or two. In the current photo the ledge is totally gone as is the entire ground floor facade. Those arches are what have always/originally been there as the underlying structure.

GaylordWilshire Apr 25, 2012 6:26 PM

http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/6...ncolor1204.jpg
http://img848.imageshack.us/img848/8...1994602803.jpghttp://img163.imageshack.us/img163/1...ngsv602803.jpg


Not long ago, while checking out material on Marion Parker, I came across this shot of the house at 212 S. Wilton Place, which, since it's black & white, I took to be vintage at first glance. Then I noticed the old VW bug, so I knew the shot wasn't as vintage as I thought and decided not to do a "then and now" here. (The LAPL dates the shot as 1994.) Well, today in his brilliant blog Paradise Leased, Steve Vaught and his able and not-to-be trifled-with Gal Fridays, Nellie and Dora, have given the house a distinguished identity. For those of us who discovered the Los Angeles landscape in the movies and on TV and somehow conflated it with the American small-town myth, it is fitting that Judge Hardy once lived at 212 S. Wilton. Lewis Stone also lent his impressive judicial air to another house, a long-fabled one six blocks to the west. Check out the full story here: Paradise Leased.

Btw-- The block of Wilton Place between 2nd and 3rd is a Los Angeles street worth taking a look at--it is still composed almost entirely of its original 1920s houses. Although--I see I am going to have to take my chainsaw over there one night....


Pics: Paradise Leased; LAPL; Google SV

BifRayRock Apr 25, 2012 8:35 PM

On the Cusp of Noorish?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5569737)
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics23/00031292.jpgLAPL

A shot showing Ogden intact between 6th & Wilshire, as well as Genessee--the center of the three lower streets--before it was diverted to Ogden for the complex between Ogden & Spaulding.


GW's post brought to mind the fact that there were two streets that originally bisected the expansive area now claimed by the LACMA between Wilshire and Sixth Street. An older Thomas Guide might provide a more definitive answer, but whether it was Orange Grove or Ogden or Genesee, one road paralleled the Original May Co. complex. Another road, which is what I believe is depicted in GW's photo, eventually permitted access to what may have been called May Co's Annex store and a separate multi story parking complex. Look closely and you will notice two structures that were separated by a glorified alley "roughly" paralleling Wilshire.

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00090/00090507.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org

I recall visiting the parking structure when May Co. was conducting an "outdoor" sale "in" the structure. (This street closure causes me to recall another street closure - Genesee Avenue, which ran through CBS's Beverly-Fairfax facility and the Farmer's Mkt - now part of the Grove.)



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For what its worth, motion pictures were taken of the May Co. ground breaking. Even a Goodyear blimp was on hand. Video is found on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cqbeebckw7M

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This wonderful thread has touched on many "noirish" gas stations. Combining gas stations with Miracle Mile May Company, causes me to recall a station adjacent to the May Co., - on the corner of Fairfax and Sixth Street. I vaguely remember the station from the early 80's. It may have been self-service, in that the gas pumps required the use of silver-dollar sized tokens. "Power"-something?

*This photo evidently pre-dates the gas station, but I do not believe it has been posted here before. In the center of the picture is a white rectangle. I am guessing it was a loading dock, but I suppose it could have been an access to a subterranean area. Note the road bisecting the property between Wilshire and Sixth Street.
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...CDE5A2631?v=hr


*Look closely and you can see the image of that station near the May Co. "M" in this photo (3:30 O'clock, far right hand side.) The picture indicates the presence of a spire - that I do not remember.

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...-B46-ISLA?v=hr

*In the quest to locate a photo of the subject gas station, I noticed the third photo (ca '51). It appears to have been taken from the NE corner of 6th and Fairfax looking SW. I believe the Whelan Drugs is currently occupied by a Dollar Store.


http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...369-016~3?v=hr

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/search/controller/view/whit-m1428.html?x=1335382897948

GaylordWilshire Apr 25, 2012 10:23 PM

:previous:

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/931...443001blts.jpghttp://img836.imageshack.us/img836/4862/mayco.jpg

It seems that both Orange Grove (red bullets) and Ogden (yellow bullets) at some point ran between Wilshire and 6th. The
map is from a 1943 pocket atlas; at right is a fragment from a 1965 aerial.



Illustrations: Historic Map Works; LAPL

GaylordWilshire Apr 25, 2012 10:52 PM

http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/796/svpmaptop.jpghttp://img715.imageshack.us/img715/9...pmapbottom.jpg
LAPL


A great 1924 map I don't remember seeing here before....

unihikid Apr 26, 2012 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 5679046)
GW's post brought to mind the fact that there were two streets that originally bisected the expansive area now claimed by the LACMA between Wilshire and Sixth Street. An older Thomas Guide might provide a more definitive answer, but whether it was Orange Grove or Ogden or Genesee, one road paralleled the Original May Co. complex. Another road, which is what I believe is depicted in GW's photo, eventually permitted access to what may have been called May Co's Annex store and a separate multi story parking complex. Look closely and you will notice two structures that were separated by a glorified alley "roughly" paralleling Wilshire.

I recall visiting the parking structure when May Co. was conducting an "outdoor" sale "in" the structure. (This street closure causes me to recall another street closure that ran through CBS's Beverly-Fairfax facility and the Farmer's Mkt now part of the Grove.)



_______________________________


For what its worth, motion pictures were taken of the May Co. ground breaking. Even a Goodyear blimp was on hand. Video is found on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cqbeebckw7M

_______________________________


This wonderful thread has touched on many "noorish" gas stations. Combining gas stations with Miracle Mile May Company, causes me to recall a station adjacent to the May Co., - on the corner of Fairfax and Sixth Street. I vaguely remember the station from the early 80's. It may have been self-service, in that the gas pumps required the use of silver-dollar sized tokens. "Power"-something?

*This photo evidently pre-dates the gas station, but I do not believe it has been posted here before. In the center of the picture is a white rectangle. I am guessing it was a loading dock, but I suppose it could have been an access to a subterranean area. Note the road bisecting the property between Wilshire and Sixth Street.
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...CDE5A2631?v=hr


*Look closely and you can see the image of that station near the May Co. "M" in this photo (3:30 O'clock, far right hand side.) The picture indicates the presence of a spire - that I do not remember.

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...-B46-ISLA?v=hr

*In the quest to locate a photo of the subject gas station, I noticed the third photo (ca '51). It appears to have been taken from the NE corner of 6th and Fairfax looking SW. I believe the Whelan Drugs is currently occupied by a Dollar Store.


http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...369-016~3?v=hr

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/search/controller/view/whit-m1428.html?x=1335382897948

there was indeed a 76 gas station there til at least the late 90s,i use to fill my bike tires up there.it was a very mid century station,i want to say it had a garage,but what i remember most is that there was no boarderline for the may company and gas station.

BifRayRock Apr 26, 2012 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5239323)
I briefly lived on Cochran as well sopas_ej!
My apartment was just north of Wilshire on the west side of Cochran behind the 5455 Tower. http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/6...bywilshire.jpg
google street view


There is an interesting series of photos depicting Bob's Air Mail Service Station at 5453 Wilshire - next door to your former residence. The quad-engined ("4" propellers/12 blades) and twin-boomed aircraft "The Happy Landing" memorably forms the center piece of a Mobil gas station. (Notice the Neon at the leading edge of the wings: "It's Faster - It's Better") (Some of the photos may be attributable to LIFE, others seem to be part of Pomona Pub Library's collection. All of the photos are circa '36. One or two have been posted here before, but am presently unable to locate them using the search function.) At least one of the photos depicts a painted advertisement for "Wilshire Cochran Apartments." The second photo is also noteworthy because under its nose is "A&P Parking" which was the subject of other posts on this forum.

I have wondered how the aircraft came to be placed there. Was it flown to one of the nearby airstrips (at Wilshire and Fairfax) and taxied to the Cochran site, or was it moved a la the "Spruce Goose" and "Big Rock," and later assembled. I also wonder how long it lasted. Until the Lee Tower construction?

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Long gone former residents of that neighborhood in the '40s(?) (who remembered the Ritz Theater and also described another "art" theater ("Fox La Brea" 857 South LaBrea http://sites.google.com/site/wilshir...es/fox-la-brea ) have also mentioned that there was another gas station on the SW corner of Cochran and Third Street (Chevron?). Evidently, it was replaced by a mini-mall in the 80's. The A&P was replaced by "Roman Foods." But is it possible that the A&P moved west to larger quarters? Could it have moved to the location eventually occupied by an appliance store called "Adray's"? Or, was it Adray's that occupied Van DeKamps, or was that DuPars?

Then there is another topic peripherally mentioned in this forum (what topic hasn't been touched upon?), the Three Stooges. I mention this because they shot some sequences of a '36 short entitled "False Alarms" at Station 61. Locations on Larchmont have been documented elsewhere on this forum. http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show....php?p=5080555 (Thanks gsjansen!) Likewise, Moe and Curly had homes on Highland; although, it is strongly believed that Moe also had another nearby residence on Vista or Martel between Beverly and Third Street - possibly when he shot False Alarms.

http://imgzoom.cdlib.org/Converter?i...0&w=1175&h=732 http://imgzoom.cdlib.org/Fullscreen....nd=calisphere#

http://imgzoom.cdlib.org/Converter?i...0&w=1091&h=693

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Ei2Ik5quiI...lyshopping.jpg http://pleasantfamilyshopping.blogsp...acific-in.html
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Ei2Ik5quiI...lyshopping.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Ei2Ik5quiI...yshopping.jpeg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...larmsTITLE.jpg

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/ghtyYFS9Bt0/0.jpg http://www.google.com/imgres?q=Three...,r:13,s:0,i:96

http://www.lafire.com/stations/FS061...n-crew_516.gif http://www.lafire.com/stations/FS061/FS061.htm

http://www.lafire.com/stations/FS061...kCo61B_516.jpg

http://www.lafire.com/stations/FS061...mPhoto_516.jpg
http://www.lafire.com/stations/FS061..._1929-1984.htm

BifRayRock Apr 26, 2012 1:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unihikid (Post 5679300)
there was indeed a 76 gas station there till at least the late 90s, i used to fill my bike tires up there. It was a very mid century station, I want to say it had a garage, but what I remember most is that there was no borderline for the may company and gas station.

Thanks for the reply.

I did not frequent that station except for a few times in '79 or '80. In keeping with the character of LA, the station probably started out as one brand and morphed into the Powerine-Powerline-Powersomething I am trying to remember. Thus, it would not be surprising to learn that it changed into a Union/76, as you mention. I distinctly recall the inconvenience of exchanging cash for tokens. In fact, I vaguely remember some patrons using "Ike" Dollars in place of the tokens since they carried the same value as the tokens. And now that I think about it, there may have been one or two other similar stations in or near Westwood or Santa Monica, because the tokens were practically worthless at any place other than one of these stations.

From my extremely vague memory, the station I remember shared a common blacktop with the May Co's parking lot, but the station was barely demarcated by a chain link fence. The station's motif did not stand out in my mind other than it was white and basically set up for selling petrol and smokes. I could be wrong, but remember the air being available from its own island near the NE corner of the station plot. As noted in the earlier post, I do not recall a tall spire. Nor do I recall any covered garage or lift. (A picture sure would be nice to establish how much I have forgotten.)

Since that post I have been reminded that the Chevon station catacorner from Fire Station 61 (on Third Street) did have a small garage with a lift. It was apparently a magnet for parking the wrecks that resulted from accidents at that intersection. West on Third Street - before reaching the Farmer's Market on Fairfax, one would pass the Gilmore Drive In which later was occupied by a nursery (Mordigans?) On the South side of the street, after passing Park La Brea (Tav sign?), you might pass a former Restaurant that later became Lohmans? Then there was the Town and Country Market, with BRITTS Department Store - part of the JJ Newberry chain (Now KMart) and the Mayfair Market (or was it a Safeway?). In the other direction (East) there were car dealerships on La Brea (Irv White Buick) Pontiac, Ford, Chrysler Plymouth and a Ralphs grocery store on Third and LaBrea.

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Speaking of the Kiddie Park where the Beverly Center now plots, I vaguely remember at the corner of Beverly and La Cienega an impediment in the middle of the road that was a vestige of oil well that was supposedly removed 30-40 years earlier(?)
See: http://articles.latimes.com/2010/aug...-then-20100821
Feb 16, '31:
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...04334F6C0?v=hr http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/search...chs-m8531.html

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Dupars on Wilshire (mentioned in earlier post)
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00090/00090442.jpg http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/D...Search&index=w

Another interesting shot of Park LaBrea.
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics22/00045566.jpg http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics22/00045566.jpg

3940dxer Apr 26, 2012 2:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5679236)
...A great 1924 map I don't remember seeing here before....

That is a great map, and it reveals a lot of things about early road system in the SF Valley - thanks! My only disappointment is that, like nearly every other old street map I've seen of the L.A. area, it omits Lookout Mountain and Laurel Canyon. It's weird but all the Valley maps seem to use Mulholland as a southern boundary, and the L.A. city maps cut off at around Laurel Canyon and Sunset...they never show the Canyon itself, or more particularly the little roads in the Canyon. Oh well...still very glad you posted this, GW. Love the old town names...Girard, Zelzah...and Wahoo! :rolleyes:

BifRayRock Apr 26, 2012 2:31 AM

Beverly and La Cienega Viscinity Cont.
 
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics19/00029473.jpg
Gary Leonard '85

Beverly and LaCienega March '50 (from the Rexall Drug Parking Lot looking NW? Before Cedars and the Beverly Center)

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics35/00067276.jpg http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics35/00067276.jpg

From same Rexall parking lot ca.'50?

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics35/00067278.jpg http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/P...seID=968&index

Ansel Adams ca. '40 LaCienega
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00085/00085762.jpg http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...Number=4780957

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00088/00088656.jpg

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00077/00077687.jpg

http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics36/00037869.jpg

and a little further south on La Cienega where it intersects with Wilshire: (Source indicates 1930?)
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics35/00067285.jpghttp://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...olNumber=70820


3940dxer Apr 26, 2012 3:52 AM

BifRayRock, welcome to the thread and thanks for the excellent posts! I'm loving all the photos you added, especially the Bob's Airmail shots (much better than the ones I had seen before).

I wonder exactly where that oil pump was, on La Cienega? It would be fun to see a "now" image of that spot.

unihikid Apr 26, 2012 3:54 AM

Bifray,growing up in the 80s and 90s i remember the car dealership on labrea and 3rd very well,at that time it was a "OK" dealership,they went out of business in about 95,i was getting into cameras by then and i had to past this lot on my way to pan pacific camera.anyways the building was white and it had a bunch of "OK" neon signs and i asked the guy who was "working" there if i could have one of the signs and he said sure,so the next day i go by to pick it up and all of them are gone,the guy said some other guy picked them up.the dealership is now a trader joes.

But i love the pictures of that area,i didnt know dupars was on wilshire! and the old 61,i remember them building the new 61 but this is my first time seeing the mission 61.that whole area has changed so much,the tennis courts for park labrea are now town homes,the nursery that was just past pan pacific park is now nordstroms,and the grove.

alanlutz Apr 26, 2012 4:14 AM

I'm only up to page 155 of this thread so far but found this great picture from 1948 of Barclay Hotel back on that page that I love.

http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/4...street1948.jpg

Compare with my shots of the neighborhood recently: The "Henley Apartments" is really the Barclay Marquee replaced on one side for shooting the TV Show "Touch". https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-L...4/DSC01541.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-L...4/DSC01544.jpg

Here is the other side of the marquee. Looks original:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-a...4/DSC01543.jpg

And on the corner is the Bank Building. Not nearly as good a perspective as the 1948 shot but i recognized the intersection right away after visiting.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-_...4/DSC01546.jpg

BifRayRock Apr 26, 2012 4:22 AM

Gas Station of sixth and fairfax?
 
Here are a few additional fleeting glimpses of the Gas Station located North of the May Company.

Apropos of GW's most recent post, the no-longer-existent "Orange Grove" is plainly visible in the middle aerial shot. I submit the photo is probably from the 60's since it depicts the adjacent Annex and Parking structure. Interestingly, the bottom most photo indicates the existence of a structure on Fairfax directly behind the May Co. Notice the cars driving between the two structures? Was it temporary or just short-lived?

The sourced notes indicate the bottom most picture was taken in '55. It includes a bit of the gas station's "spire" (an homage to Zeppelin masts or a misplaced Chimney?) In any event, that would tend to indicate the Station existed in the 50's.

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-...94209720_n.jpg http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...type=3&theater

and

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...63329812_n.jpg


http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-...26257064_n.jpghttp://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...type=3&theater

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...84309401_n.jpg http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...type=3&theater

http://imgzoom.cdlib.org/Converter?i...0&w=1187&h=733 http://content.cdlib.org/ark:/13030/...791/hi-res.jpg http://content.cdlib.org/ark:/13030/...5jj/hi-res.jpgPomona Pb Lbhttp://content.cdlib.org/ark:/13030/kt9d5nc791/

BifRayRock Apr 26, 2012 4:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3940dxer (Post 5679526)
BifRayRock, welcome to the thread and thanks for the excellent posts! I'm loving all the photos you added, especially the Bob's Airmail shots (much better than the ones I had seen before).

I wonder exactly where that oil pump was, on La Cienega? It would be fun to see a "now" image of that spot.

Thank you! I stumbled upon this thread some months ago and every time I tried to Register the board was overloaded. Tried it again and got lucky.

I have always been fascinated with the Miracle M and West Hollywood areas because of stories I heard from folks who grew up there. There are more shots of Bob's Airmail gas station, but they don't appear to be easily discovered. I would love to find a shot of the neon on the wings lit up - even if its only sepia toned!

Regarding the location of the Oil Well, I distinctly recall there being an island in the middle of LaCienega just a few yard before LaC intersected with Beverly. This was probably before the Beverly Center was built, but it could have been there even after the construction. It was covered with tire carcasses much the way some docks are covered. I wouldn't be surprised to hear of other middle of the road wonders in that area. I also am pretty sure I have seen aerial photos of the same derrick with the hills clearly in the background.

From the LA Times:"An oil well on La Cienega?" http://articles.latimes.com/2010/aug...-then-20100821

When the wooden derrick was constructed in 1907, it was in the middle of a bean field. After the boulevard was extended in 1930, motorists had to zigzag around the well.
August 21, 2010|By Steve Harvey, Special to The Times

Driving around Southern California, you never know where you'll find oil.
Drilling platforms, for example, can be seen on the Coyote Hills golf course in Fullerton, in the parking lot of Huntington Beach's City Hall and outside Curley's Cafe in Signal Hill. There's even a derrick tucked inside the Beverly Center, near the parking area for Bloomingdale's. But one of the area's most unusual drilling sites is just a memory now. It was a well that stood in the middle of La Cienega Boulevard from 1930 to 1946, forcing drivers to zigzag around it. "Pictures and stories about it have been sent all over the globe," The Times noted in 1945.
The oil island, between Beverly Boulevard and 3rd Street, became a running gag. Times columnist Fred Beck quipped in 1944 that it was "squeaking badly and needs oil." Originally part of the Rancho La Brea land grant, the well helped "give Los Angeles a reputation for eccentricity," The Times noted. Of course, when the wooden derrick was constructed in 1907, it wasn't in the middle of La Cienega Boulevard. It was in the middle of a bean field. La Cienega didn't run that far north. Then, in 1930, the city extended the roadway from Santa Monica Boulevard to Sunset Boulevard. Who knew? There was always a chance that it might be needed if traffic on the Westside ever increased.
But "there was much discussion and controversy over the fate of the well," The Times said. "The city refused to pay what the owners believed the well to be worth. The owners refused to accept less." So the well stayed. In later years it was given a bit of ornamentation: whiskey billboards on the north and south sides. "The well is fenced and parked as if it were an ornamental fountain or statue," The Times wrote in 1938.
Eventually the owners decided it would be more profitable to operate a drugstore in the area, so the land was rezoned and the oil well dismantled.
Of course, the well wasn't the only petroleum-producing road obstacle in the nation. Barnsdall, Okla. (population: 1,325) put up a derrick in the middle of Main Street in 1914. It's still there as a landmark, but it no longer pumps oil. No one can remember it ever causing an accident — that's how light traffic is on Main Street. "We don't have any stoplights in town," said Joe Williams, president of the local Bigheart Historical Society.
On La Cienega Boulevard, of course, there are plenty of stoplights and no traces of the old bean fields (unless you count the nearby Coffee Bean & Tea Leaf outlet). The Beverly Center stands a few feet from the old well site.

BifRayRock Apr 26, 2012 5:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unihikid (Post 5679528)
Bifray,growing up in the 80s and 90s i remember the car dealership on labrea and 3rd very well,at that time it was a "OK" dealership,they went out of business in about 95, . . . the dealership is now a trader joes.

I'm wondering if the Trader Joes was a Chevrolet dealership.

While Ralphs Supermarket has been at the same location for years, it has not always been on the same footprint. If I am not mistaken, Ralph's took over the land formerly occupied by Irv White Buick. Further North on La Brea may have been a Pontiac dealership and maybe a Ford of Mercury dealer on the West side of the Street.

In the other direction, South on La Brea, there had been a host of Chrysler affiliated dealerships. Indeed, GaylordWilshire previously posted a picture of the building at 611 S. LaBrea that started out as a DeSoto dealership (maybe he can use some magic and find some more). Stills from the Three Stooges "False Alarms" short have previously appeared in this forum and they have included a few pictures of what is probably the same Third and La Brea intersection looking South. Notice in one shot what appears to be a huge neon Chevy bowtie logo on the left, the "Dodge" signs on the right, and the ubiquitous Skyscraper in the background found at the intersection of LaBrea and Wilshire.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7187/6...3672e00b_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ozfan22...n/photostream/

and now:http://lh3.ggpht.com/_zXN_GwdMYMo/TO...12346%20AM.jpghttp://lh3.ggpht.com/_zXN_GwdMYMo/TO...12346%20AM.jpg

http://www.bradhallart.com/bradflix/...shire_1936.jpg http://www.bradhallart.com/bradflix/wilshire.html


http://i.ebayimg.com/t/West-Los-Ange...wrw~~60_57.JPG
http://www.ebay.com/itm/West-Los-Ang...-/120853554943


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