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Martin Pal Feb 8, 2016 1:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7217249)
This is my favorite matchbook find.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...911/jl60vE.jpg
eBay
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Unfortunately, I haven't found any photos of this place, either, E_R, but I wanted to point
out that The Manhattan Transfer used it as cover art for their "Swing" album:

http://manhattantransfer.net/wp-cont...1/02/swing.jpg
http://manhattantransfer.net/discography/swing/

Swing is a studio album released by The Manhattan Transfer in 1997 on the Atlantic Records label.
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Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7217249)
The Jitterbug House is included in this list.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...633/WJrCYd.jpg
1998 article_LATimes

:previous: I'd also like to learn more about the Grape Vine Cocktail Lounge in the bus station. -sounds like a great setting for a film noir!
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E_R, I didn't see any follow up posts to your Grape Vine Cocktail Lounge inquiry, and I haven't found any
information to add about it, but I did find this photo, dated 1979, showing this place:

https://ssl.c.photoshelter.com/img-g...lpjrbVKazA.jpgBruce Torrence

I admit I was surprised; I thought, if I had found any photograph of it, it would've been a few decades
earlier than 1979!

Wish there was a better photograph...the sign on the front of it looks to have a "Hello, Kitty" type drawing on it.

Flyingwedge Feb 8, 2016 4:38 AM

317 and 333 S. Windsor Blvd.
 
In 1914, Thomas O'Neill built 317 S. Windsor, and Mary Crimmins built 333 S. Windsor.

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...1.jpg~original
April 18, 1914 LA Herald @ CDNC -- http://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a=d...levard-------1

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...0.jpg~original
June 27, 1914 LA Herald @ CDNC -- http://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a=d...indsor-------1

The architect of 317 S. Windsor was B. Cooper Corbett.

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...k.jpg~original
1916 LA City Directory @ LAPL

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...b.jpg~original
1916 LA City Directory @ LAPL

317 (Right) and 333 (Left) S. Windsor, c. 1915 (I've enlarged the photo a bit):
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...k.jpg~original
UCLA -- http://lit250v.library.ucla.edu/isla.../laviews%3A949

Here are 317 and 333 S. Windsor in March 2015:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...r.jpg~original
GSV

Here they were in March 2011; 317's LLC owner has done a lot of interior remodeling in the last few years:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...i.jpg~original
GSV

This is a closer look at 333 from March 2015:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...i.jpg~original
GSV

If you're wondering about the portico on 333, it was enlarged in 1916:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...f.jpg~original
LADBS

In 1951, composer Dimitri Tiomkin put in a pool at 333, and he had other work done there in the 1950s:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...w.jpg~original
LADBS

CityBoyDoug Feb 8, 2016 6:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 7327799)
Unfortunately, I haven't found any photos of this place, either, E_R,

http://hollywoodphotographs.com/photos/lrg/VINE-054.jpgBruce Torrence

I admit I was surprised; I thought, if I had found any photograph of it, it would've been a few decades
earlier than 1979!

Wish there was a better photograph...the sign on the front of it looks to have a "Hello, Kitty" type drawing on it.

Didn't this bar have a different name? I believe it was named after a female singer at one time in the 1960s -70s. Anyone recall? Kay Starr?

GaylordWilshire Feb 8, 2016 3:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 7327892)
In 1914...Mary Crimmins built 333 S. Windsor.

This is a closer look at 333 from March 2015:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...i.jpg~original
GSV

In 1951, composer Dimitri Tiomkin put in a pool at 333, and he had other work done there in the 1950s:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...w.jpg~original
LADBS



https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Z...2520PM.bmp.jpgLAT
We've seen actual photos of the first part of this stretch on NLA before, beginning with ER's post 27752


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-v...2520PM.bmp.jpgLAT Nov 11, 1914



https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-0...42/tiomkin.jpgdimitritiomkin.com



Tiomkin-- composer of many film scores, including It's a Wonderful Life and High Noon and a number for Hitchcock (Shadow of a Doubt, my favorite, among them)-- appears to have bought 333 after it was on the market in the spring of 1950:


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-P...ndtry2.bmp.jpgLAT May 6, 1950



Gotta have some noir: According to an online biography at dimitritiomkin.com--which includes a picture labeled 333 S Windsor that does not appear to be the actual house-- "Tiomkinā€™s wonderful life in America came to an end in 1967 with the death of his wife, Albertina Rasch. Upon returning to his Windsor Square-Hancock Park home in Los Angeles after the funeral, he was attacked and beaten by robbers. Tiomkin put the house up for sale and returned to Europe."


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-c...2520AM.bmp.jpgLAT Oct 6, 1967

Windsor Square and the whole area was nearing meltdown in terms of real estate values, with white flight and rising crime after the '65 riots--with the Tate-LaBianca murders not far in the future....

HossC Feb 8, 2016 8:28 PM

I nearly posted this Julius Shulman photoset yesterday, but I figured we needed the Stiles Oliver Clements Citizen's Bank to break the run of Matcham and Heitschmidt buildings. Like the earlier Matcham and Heitschmidt building on W 3rd from a few days ago, these are also described as 'David Barry Shops'. This is "Job 287: Matcham and Heitschmidt, David Barry Shops (Los Angeles, Calif.),1948"

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...4.jpg~original

Here's a better view of the Aero Shade Co's neon sign.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...5.jpg~original

I think this was a photographic studio, but I couldn't read the sign.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...6.jpg~original

All from Getty Research Institute

The 1956 CD lists the Aero Shade Company at 1082 S La Cienega Boulevard. The new building permit is dated November 20, 1945. I can't see a demo permit, but the current building (below) can be seen under construction in the January 2009 GSV image.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...7.jpg~original
GSV

ethereal_reality Feb 8, 2016 8:44 PM

:previous: Oh my, that new bldg. is awfully cheap looking.
I take it there's an elevator in that center cylinder masquerading as a turret.

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ethereal_reality Feb 8, 2016 8:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 7327799)

E_R, I didn't see any follow up posts to your Grape-Vine Cocktail Lounge inquiry, and I haven't found any
information to add about it, but I did find this photo, dated 1979, showing this place:

http://hollywoodphotographs.com/photos/lrg/VINE-054.jpgBruce Torrence

I admit I was surprised; I thought, if I had found any photograph of it, it would've been a few decades
earlier than 1979!

:previous: You found a photo of the Grape-vine! Thanks Martin Pal.

here it is larger
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...924/Rqi6ub.jpg

I thought the slanted "Hello-Kitty-type" sign was for a business next door, but I see it's advertising the Grape-Vine as well.





I thought the large 'Coca-Cola' sign (red arrow below) was located at Hollywood & Vine. -obviously I was wrong.
Any idea what building it's on top of?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...922/CeeZBU.jpg



I posted the slide of the two Illinois tourists way back on page 51, but it was great seeing it again M P. It's one of my favorite amateur slides.
That said, I didn't know they were from Illinois...my home state! :) So thanks for that bit of additional information.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=1088
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ethereal_reality Feb 8, 2016 9:56 PM

I don't believe we've seen this fantastic slide on NLA before.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...921/XRtabM.jpg
eBay

"N. Broadway / Fort Moore Hill"

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Earl Boebert Feb 8, 2016 10:18 PM

Some sweet machines parked at the bottom of that hill -- a Volvo P1800, a Karmann Ghia Cabriolet, and something equally zippy looking that I can't identify.

Cheers,

Earl

HossC Feb 8, 2016 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7328462)

I thought the large 'Coca-Cola' sign (red arrow below) was located at Hollywood & Vine. -obviously I was wrong.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...922/CeeZBU.jpg

I'm still trying to figure out exactly which building the sign was on. This 1953 image shows it just east of Kress, which was at 6608 Hollywood Boulevard in the 1956 CD.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
Detail of picture in USC Digital Library

Here's a color image from the Getty Library. They date it as circa 1950.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original
gettyimages.com/Harvey Meston

ethereal_reality Feb 8, 2016 11:11 PM

:previous: Thanks Hoss. That color photograph is beautiful.

I didn't realize how impressive the Coca-Cola sign was at night.

ethereal_reality Feb 8, 2016 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Earl Boebert (Post 7328568)
Some sweet machines parked at the bottom of that hill -- a Volvo P1800, a Karmann Ghia Cabriolet,
and something equally zippy looking that I can't identify.

Cheers, Earl

I like that parking spot on the end that t-bones the others. I'd feel special if I got that spot. :)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...924/G11NcU.jpg
detail

And that truck reminds of the pod transports in Invasion of the Body Snatchers.
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Bristolian Feb 8, 2016 11:41 PM

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...924/G11NcU.jpg
detail

Some sweet machines parked at the bottom of that hill -- a Volvo P1800, a Karmann Ghia Cabriolet, and something equally zippy looking that I can't identify.

Cheers,

Earl, If it's the green ragtop you're referring to, I believe it's a Fiat 850 Spider.

Earl Boebert Feb 9, 2016 12:23 AM

I think you're right. And there is another Karmann Ghia on the left end. My mystery car is the one that is in the "T bone" space on the far right.

Cheers,

Earl

GaylordWilshire Feb 9, 2016 12:31 AM

:previous:


Looks like a Datsun 240Z--here's a '72:


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-E...2520PM.bmp.jpghemmings.com

BifRayRock Feb 9, 2016 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7006140)

Thanks for the back-story on 620 Ardmore Avenue GW.
I had to laugh at the headline 'Screen Scintillator To Build Spacious Hostelry'.

Here's the scintillator herself, Ms. Ruth Roland
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...540/URRB66.jpg
https://books.google.com/books?id=W8...0estate&f=true

She also invested here:

"Later she put her fortune to work in real estate, buying a tract of land between Universal City and Hollywood
that she subdivided and sold to her fellow workers in the movie industry."
https://books.google.com/books?id=W8...0estate&f=true

It would be fun to figure out the location of Ms. Roland's early subdivision. It must be somewhere on the east side of Cahuenga Pass.

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Real big real estate raconteur and romantic, Ruth Roland
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...j.jpg~originalLAPL




Probably not surprising that contemporary gossip publications targeted celebrities' "off screen" pursuits. Of course, one bullseye was on scintillating Ruth Roland a.k.a "the Hetty Green of Hollywood." In one instance Ms. Roland is pictured with "Roland Square" in the background. Has an exact address for this location been established? Most sources mention Wilshire Blvd. yet there is some reference to a lit revolving sign "down on Washington Blvd."

There is a '32CD for Ruth Roland Inc. at the familiar 6608 Wilshire.
See: [URL="http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=6847269&postcount=25085"]http://forum.skyscraperpage.com http://skyscraperpage.com/forum/show...ostcount=32923 http://skyscraperpage.com/forum/show...ostcount=32923



1924 Photoplay
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...s.jpg~original
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...c.jpg~original




Noah Beery's Trout Club has had several NLA mentions. For starters, it is on this favorite map. http://skyscraperpage.com/forum/show...postcount=9512




1925, Feb. "Pictures and Picturegoer"
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...x.jpg~original
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...c.jpg~original
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...e.jpg~original





BifRayRock Feb 9, 2016 12:40 AM




Chops or Chicken?


More of the same rehashed subject, but this "expose" includes a reference to Robert (Clara's Dad) Bow's Chop House (even though it seems to feature Chicken specialties.) Evidently, in 1928, a "Robt Bow" had a cleaning establishment at 303 S Robertson and it looks as though he opened a restaurant in the same area in 1929 at 8801 Beverly Blvd. Unclear how long that lasted since that seems to be the only CDlisting.


Apr. '29 Screenland
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...r.jpg~original
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...9.jpg~original

http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...v.jpg~original

Approximate location for Robt Bow's restaurant on Beverly Blvd.
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...pstc6ieq5z.jpgGSview




More of the same . . .
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...g.jpg~original




Can a houses have compassion?
Apr '29 Screenland
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...w.jpg~original








ethereal_reality Feb 9, 2016 1:02 AM

re: The 'mystery' pole.



'New' Chinatown, 1940s. (first posted a few days ago)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...921/5FGLuU.jpg

:previous::previous::previous:
Quote:

Originally Posted by oldstuff (Post 7323579)
The frame at the top of the pole looks like the mounting for an air raid siren

Thanks oldstuff. I think you could be right.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...921/ATZovQ.jpg
tumblr.

While looking for further information on air raid sirens, I found an amazing interactive map that pinpoints the location of 225 air raid sirens in the Los Angeles area!

below: This is a screen-grab of the map. To use the map go to http://wirechief.com/sirens/map.htm

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...921/wDyhQ0.jpg
http://wirechief.com/sirens/map.htm



But the closest siren to Chinatown that I could find was at 800 N. Main Street.

screen-grab / detail
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...922/85plNN.jpg
http://wirechief.com/sirens/map.htm

:previous: "Old fire station 4 at this address. May have been on the roof"




I dug up some photographs of #4 station from 1949. (no air raid siren...yet)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...921/1EHT93.jpg
http://www.lafire.com/stations/PhotoGallery.htm


in 2009 (no siren or siren pole visible)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...924/U87O09.jpggsv




1949 (the station was brand new in 1949, so I'm not sure why it's so smudgy looking) -perhaps it's waiting for it's first paint job.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...921/3fweXa.jpg
http://www.lafire.com/stations/PhotoGallery.htm




2009
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...922/kphItH.jpggsv



Here's the same view in 2011 (the station has been torn down)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...922/N7zoWs.jpg

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Before I sign off, one more view from 2009.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...921/2XgMdg.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...923/VG0NoM.jpg



http://www.lafire.com/stations/PhotoGallery.htm

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GaylordWilshire Feb 9, 2016 1:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 7328725)



Before it was The Talmadge, it was the Francesca...and it was at Wilshire & Berendo rather than Catalina:


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-l...ofrancesca.jpgwilshireboulevardhouses.com


The Francesca/Talmadge was built on the site of Earl C. Anthony's Greene & Greene house at 666 South Berendo Street, moved to (and still in) Beverly Hills in 1923. Full story is here:

http://wilshireboulevardhouses.blogspot.com/2013/05/666-south-berendo-street-please-see-our.html

Noircitydame Feb 9, 2016 3:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7328571)
I'm still trying to figure out exactly which building the sign was on. This 1953 image shows it just east of Kress, which was at 6608 Hollywood Boulevard in the 1956 CD.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
Detail of picture in USC Digital Library

Here's a color image from the Getty Library. They date it as circa 1950.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original
gettyimages.com/Harvey Meston

The Coke sign's on the J.J. Newberry Building (6600-6604 Hollywood Blvd.). It was built in 1929 and the sign was added c. 1936, originally in the shape of the USA and flashed "All roads lead to Hollywood" (flash dark) "and the pause the refreshes" (flash) "drink Coca-cola"

a little 5-second movie of the sign in action on the Getty site


http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...e/newberry.jpg Newberry Building CSL (many more here)

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...ola%20neon.jpg postcard showing the 1930s version of the sign.

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...ry%20today.jpg Newberry modern view. Coke removed the sign 1993 or so but it looks like the trussing that held it is still there.


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