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gsjansen Jun 13, 2011 3:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5313133)
Label this one under 'kitsch'.

The Jail Cafe at 4212 Sunset Blvd. in 1927.


below: Cells for nonsupport and speeding?? This has to be the worst idea for a restaurant ever!

http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/3...feinterior.jpg
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What did they serve....bread and water?

everybody in the whole cell block was chowing down to the jailhouse schlock! :lmao:

ethereal_reality Jun 13, 2011 10:14 PM

ba-da ba-da Ching!

http://youtu.be/7yl3UMO-TkE

sopas ej Jun 13, 2011 11:54 PM

:previous:
What if they tried to do this today? Would the servers be sporting orange jumpsuits and tats?

Kelton Verdugo Jun 14, 2011 1:25 AM

That is one sharp looking logo for Southern California Edison! Looks like it was literally the size of a truck.

gsjansen Jun 14, 2011 4:21 PM

i never get tired of looking at the changes over the years of sunset boulevard and broadway, (if anyone here is tired of looking at it, my sincere apologies!)

looking east on sunset boulevard from broadway 1939

http://jpg2.lapl.org/spnb1/00017153.jpg
Source: LAPL

The same view 1986

http://jpg2.lapl.org/spnb1/00017163.jpg
Source: LAPL

I know we've kinda done this one before, but still..........yoiks!

Looking south on broadway across sunset boulevard 1929

http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics08/00013680.jpg
Source: LAPL

the same view 1951

http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics08/00013681.jpg
Source: LAPL

The same view 1971

http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics08/00013677.jpg
Source: LAPL

looking north on broadway across sunset boulevard 1895

http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics08/00013678.jpg
Source: LAPL

The same view 1930

http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics08/00013679.jpg
Source: LAPL

Kind sorta the same view 1870

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets.../CHS-7186?v=hr
Source: USC Digital Archive

1947 aerial of the intersection

http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics49/00044286.jpg
Source: LAPL

kinda current similar view courtesy of bingmaps, (microsoft really needs to update these a tad more often)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2689/...09337585_o.jpg

gsjansen Jun 15, 2011 3:42 PM

a 1924 aerial looking north east centered on the old courthouse that i don't recall seeing before

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3414/...18011cce_o.jpg
Source: LAPL

even though this 1952 image looking south east is from a different angle, it serves as a nice comparison of how the street were altered and the density of buildings thinned out around the civic center. market street has wiped clean, (along with the paris inn building), in advance of building parker center

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5318/...60e7ff61_o.jpg
Source: LAPL

Muji Jun 16, 2011 2:52 AM

Civic Center before and after shots are always so utterly painful to look at. No doubt one of the most horrible urban redevelopment schemes ever carried out in this country.

Engineeral Jun 16, 2011 3:57 PM

Brew 102 - Railway Service
 
My membership in this forum has just been approved, but I have been enjoying this thread for quite a while.

Something I have wanted to ask about was in the picture showing the Brew 102 building I have included below. It looks to me as if this business had rail service - not an unusual thing for a big brewery. The reason I wonder about that is the object in the red circle - is that a locomotive on the street? Note the high-visibility "tiger stripes".

Street running of railways has always been interesting to me but it is increasingly rare. Did Los Angeles have much street running of freight or passenger railways (not including the street cars and Pacific Electric services)? Did PE have freight operations?

https://i.imgur.com/wX89YSs.jpg


Alan

gsjansen Jun 16, 2011 6:45 PM

:previous:

Welcome to the thread E_AL, (my bizarro world acronym for engineeral).

train service other than the obvious P&E and LARy, did indeed run on surface roads competing with vehicular traffic in los angeles.

one of the most amazing instances of this was the train service utilizing the Southern Pacific's Central Station at 5th Street and Central Avenue.

The rail service utilizing this depot actually ran on Alameda with heavy automobile and truck traffic

this view is looking north between central and alameda from 6th street. the tracks on alameda running in and out of the depot are clearly visible

http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics49/00044308.jpg
Source: LAPL

Another view looking west across the central station train yard

http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics49/00044254.jpg
Source: LAPL

jg6544 Jun 16, 2011 7:22 PM

The train yard is still there (per Googlemaps), but the station has been replaced by what looks like a warehouse.

ethereal_reality Jun 16, 2011 9:48 PM

The Roundhouse Cafe circa 1929. Sadly no street address was given. Operating hours were 5:00 to 2:00 A.M.

http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/6...fe1929oper.jpg
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There was a long shuttered R.R. roundhouse outside of my home town....so they have always interested me.
This is the first time I've seen a roundhouse themed cafe.

ethereal_reality Jun 16, 2011 9:54 PM

A real roundhouse at the former Taylor Yard.

http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/5...arlariverp.jpg
LAPL

Photograph caption dated April 18, 1953 reads, "This is the Southern Pacific's old roundhouse near the Los Angeles river. It's a far cry from Dieselville, which is a sprawling yard. In the roundhouse, locomotives are stacked in stalls like silver stallions. On the turntable is the DInky, a snubnosed beetle on an engine which pushes the 'biggies' hither and yon. 'There still is romance in steam,' said one veteran railroader."

ethereal_reality Jun 16, 2011 10:48 PM

-swank club Cafe Society on Sunset Boulevard circa 1942.

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/793...esocietyon.jpg
LAPL

This very noirsh looking nightclub was unknown to me until I came across these two photos in the Los Angeles Public Library Collection.



http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/793...esocietyon.jpg
LAPL

above: Interior of the private club Cafe Society at 4 A.M. in 1941.

Does anyone know the street address?

Los Angeles Past Jun 17, 2011 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5318303)
A real roundhouse at the former Taylor Yard.

http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/5...arlariverp.jpg
LAPL

Photograph caption dated April 18, 1953 reads, "This is the Southern Pacific's old roundhouse near the Los Angeles river. It's a far cry from Dieselville, which is a sprawling yard. In the roundhouse, locomotives are stacked in stalls like silver stallions. On the turntable is the DInky, a snubnosed beetle on an engine which pushes the 'biggies' hither and yon. 'There still is romance in steam,' said one veteran railroader."


Thank you for that picture! Our second grade class went on a field trip to that roundhouse just before it was to be torn down. (School year 1961-2.) I remember we all wrote thank-you letters to the man who was our guide there. Mrs. Leonard (our teacher) also took us to Angels Flight on a field trip, but I don't remember if that was the same day as our roundhouse visit. I DO however remember that roundhouse field trip was the very first time I went on the new Santa Monica Freeway. (It didn't go very far then; only a few tenths of a mile past the East L.A. interchange). Ah, the memories!

-Scott

scanlessfool Jun 17, 2011 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by gsjansen (Post 5304727)
a great aerial of the cornfield train yard, and footbridge

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...5A9E25E67?v=hr
Source: USC Digital Archive.....(should'a look here in the 1st place.......sheeeeeesh)

Would anyone happen to have an idea of when this picture was taken? I can see that China town as we know it today isn't there, but since I'm not 100% sure of when the new China Town was constructed, I can't paint a time frame on the picture.

Fab Fifties Fan Jun 17, 2011 10:40 PM

Death of Superman
 
One very noirish mystery that has always fascinated me is the death of TV's Superman George Reeves. It was 52 years ago yesterday that he was shot to death in what was determined to be suicide. The controversy surrounding the facts of his last night alive and subsequent death, in the early morning hours of June 16, 1959, started immediately and has never subsided. One fascianating synopsis can be found at The Straight Dope:

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/...Nh4pj1OQ;email

ethereal_reality Jun 17, 2011 11:36 PM

^^^That is a VERY interesting article on George Reeves Fab_Fifties_Fan!


http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/229...assuperman.jpg
tv_cap1 G. Reeves 1953

I hope you continue to contribute to the thread.

ethereal_reality Jun 18, 2011 12:19 AM

Negatives for sale on ebay today.

http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/2...g4lahbxmas.jpg
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ethereal_reality Jun 18, 2011 12:23 AM

...more negatives/scanned at a smaller scale.

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/5213/negsebay7.jpg
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http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/9501/negsebay11a.jpg
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http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/6431/negsebay9.jpg
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Where is this?

The photos somewhat remind me of a location we discussed several pages back in the thread.
The first photo above, looks like an area for a funicular. (if I remember correctly, I was way off base in the previous post)

ethereal_reality Jun 18, 2011 12:36 AM

An amazingly early photograph of Chinatown, circa 1880 (perhaps late 1870s).
I believe this might be one of the earliest views of 'calles des los negros'.

http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/4...natownandg.jpg
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http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/4...natownandg.jpg
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above: The description is 'Chinatown and Orange Grove'.


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