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Lorendoc Jun 29, 2019 6:06 AM

buildings coming and going
 
I took these last week. They aren't exactly mystery locations, but somehow they seem to be related...

Coming:
https://i.imgur.com/vY7yFTl.jpg

Going:
https://i.imgur.com/pQUYjGu.jpg

ethereal_reality Jun 29, 2019 6:54 AM

Excellent sleuthing FW...

but I have to admit I became confused as I worked my way through the old Sanborn maps.

What you're basically saying is...

the two homes in the photgraph (shown below) are still standing. (despite the demolition permit)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge
This is a c. 1891 view looking south at 1448 W. Temple. The demolition permit for 1448 Temple is dated July 14, 1926:

https://i1165.photobucket.com/albums...psmcaci8i0.jpg

Instead of being demolished the small home with the 'Victorian' bric-a-brac was moved to a spot nearby. (shown below)


HERE (March 2018)
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/2Pi9TM.jpghttps://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/KdOLjo.jpg
Check out this location HERE....




And the two story home in the distance (in the 1891 photo) has survived as well.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/qnYTrI.jpg
HERE




FW's original post HERE

ethereal_reality Jun 29, 2019 7:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 8607355)
While taking the Googlemobile around the vicinity of the corner of Cesar Chavez and Cummings, pictured below,
I saw some quite tall California Fan Palms in the distance, which betokened great age.
Curious, I ran them to ground a block or so away on New Jersey St.:

https://i.postimg.cc/Bv5YvxK1/New-Jersey.jpg
gsv

More or less in front of 2012 New Jersey St.

odinthor's tree post reminded me of something I have always wondered about.




Lanewood Ave. in Hollywood is lined by 'old growth' pine trees. To be honest...(I'm not entirely sure how old a tree has to be to be considered 'old growth')

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/EwYgzJ.jpgGSV

< - - - SUNSET BLVD. - - - >..................................................................

So...who planted them? ....Could this (Lanewood Ave.)have been a farmer/rancher's lane at some point in the distant past?

Hmmm...now that I'ma ponderin' :farmer:. ....I wonder if the pines show up in any of the old photographs of Hollywood?
(judging by their height I says they're around 100 years old) Would you say that's about right, odinthor?


Here is Lanewood Ave. from La Brea.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/7sorvY.jpg

That's a pretty impressive sight! :yes:




View down Lanewood Ave. from La Brea HERE

ethereal_reality Jun 29, 2019 8:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lorendoc (Post 8619483)
I took these last week. They aren't exactly mystery locations, but somehow they seem to be related...

Coming:
https://i.imgur.com/vY7yFTl.jpg

Going:
https://i.imgur.com/pQUYjGu.jpg



Here?
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/IblJFj.jpg
ROOM221 flickr

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GaylordWilshire Jun 29, 2019 12:57 PM

:previous:


For some reason, those construction/demolition images remind me of Chernobyl...

GaylordWilshire Jun 29, 2019 1:02 PM

Here are a couple of mystery houses from Mary Pickford movies...anyone? HossC? FW?


EDIT: The first turns out to be 450 S. Lucerne Blvd

https://i.postimg.cc/1RCn3tY9/Brickh...-Long-Legs.jpg
From Daddy Long Legs, 1919


https://i.postimg.cc/bvypn0s4/House-...-Maris-bmp.jpg
From Stella Maris, 1918

odinthor Jun 29, 2019 2:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8619502)
odinthor's tree post reminded me of something I have always wondered about.




Lanewood Ave. in Hollywood is lined by 'old growth' pine trees. To be honest...(I'm not entirely sure how old a tree has to be to be considered 'old growth')

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/EwYgzJ.jpgGSV

< - - - SUNSET BLVD. - - - >..................................................................

So...who planted them? ....Could this (Lanewood Ave.)have been a farmer/rancher's lane at some point in the distant past?

Hmmm...now that I'ma ponderin' :farmer:. ....I wonder if the pines show up in any of the old photographs of Hollywood?
(judging by their height I says they're around 100 years old) Would you say that's about right, odinthor?


Here is Lanewood Ave. from La Brea.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/7sorvY.jpg

That's a pretty impressive sight! :yes:




View down Lanewood Ave. from La Brea HERE

With your conjecture of "100 years old," e_r, it appears you're just about right on the money. Look at the street trees depicted in this from 1918:

https://i.postimg.cc/wv8vqLw1/Lanewood7-7-1918.jpg
LA Times July 7, 1918, via ProQuest via CSULB Library

They're quite young, even the larger one on the left.

The wonderful line of mature, well-matched Pines on Lanewood should receive some official recognition and protection.

ryanqv Jun 29, 2019 4:18 PM

Demolition of Parker Center
 
Parker Center is almost fully demolished.


https://i.ibb.co/nM4RDwy/20190627-200124-001-0.jpg

https://la.curbed.com/2019/6/28/1915...os-downtown-la

https://i.ibb.co/BnzrqBG/Miyatake-To...-Studio-19.jpg

https://forum.savingplaces.org/blogs...-parker-center

odinthor Jun 29, 2019 4:30 PM

:previous:

Considering the location, I bet there are some very interesting artifacts from the past to be found in the soil being turned up.

FredH Jun 29, 2019 6:20 PM

https://i.postimg.cc/yxRB2Vg4/IMG-20190530-153512.jpg
Earl Witcher, Modernage Photo

Flyingwedge Jun 29, 2019 7:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8619491)
Excellent sleuthing FW...

I have to admit I became confused as I worked my way through the old Sanborn maps.


FW's original post HERE



Thanks, e_r, and I apologize for not being clear.

The house in the foreground of the old photo, 1448 Temple, was torn down in 1926. I even checked a 1927 aerial to be sure, and
1448 Temple is gone. The house in the distance on the right side of the old photo, 339 Laveta Terrace, still stands in altered form.

The small house so in need of restoration, 372 Laveta, is not in the old photo, but it was in the neighborhood and I was struck by
its appearance. That house has basically been on the SE corner of Temple and Laveta since at least 1890, but in 1910 it was moved
to the rear of the lot, reoriented and had its address changed from 1462 Temple to 372 Laveta.

ethereal_reality Jun 29, 2019 11:24 PM

:previous: No apologies necessary, FW.

That little house you found is an amazing survivor.

ethereal_reality Jun 29, 2019 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 8619586)
With your conjecture of "100 years old," e_r, it appears you're just about right on the money. Look at the street trees depicted in this from 1918:

https://i.postimg.cc/wv8vqLw1/Lanewood7-7-1918.jpg
LA Times July 7, 1918, via ProQuest via CSULB Library

They're quite young, even the larger one on the left.

The wonderful line of mature, well-matched Pines on Lanewood should receive some official recognition and protection.

____________________________________________________________________________________________________________

That's a mighty fine house. :previous:

Thanks for the reply odinthor. I appreciate it.



Take a look at this photograph, folks.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/Hb35vU.jpg
cardboardamerica

The tall trees, that you see in the background, are the Lanewood Pines behind the Carolina Pines, Jr. at La Brea & Sunset.

Pretty cool coincidence, huh. :)





Wenders, a NLA alumnus, used to live on Lanewood Avenue. He mentioned the Lanewood pine trees back in 2014. Go HERE
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ethereal_reality Jun 30, 2019 1:51 AM

Mystery object found.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/MduDuF.jpg
DETAIL
Thanks for your help Hoss & Noir Noir.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noir_Noir (Post 8618263)

Theodore Wollweber's Apothecaries Hall at 59 Main Street circa 1870.

I've never seen an apothecary mortar and pestle on top of a pole before.



...so the photographer was on the roof behind the signs.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/uCntku.jpg

;)

badrunner Jun 30, 2019 5:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8619502)
odinthor's tree post reminded me of something I have always wondered about.




Lanewood Ave. in Hollywood is lined by 'old growth' pine trees. To be honest...(I'm not entirely sure how old a tree has to be to be considered 'old growth')

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/EwYgzJ.jpgGSV

< - - - SUNSET BLVD. - - - >..................................................................

So...who planted them? ....Could this (Lanewood Ave.)have been a farmer/rancher's lane at some point in the distant past?

Hmmm...now that I'ma ponderin' :farmer:. ....I wonder if the pines show up in any of the old photographs of Hollywood?
(judging by their height I says they're around 100 years old) Would you say that's about right, odinthor?


Here is Lanewood Ave. from La Brea.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/7sorvY.jpg

That's a pretty impressive sight! :yes:




View down Lanewood Ave. from La Brea HERE

Coldwater Canyon is another street lined with mature pine trees. It goes on for about a mile. It makes for a lovely alternative to the 405 during rush hour.

I wonder if those trees are also 100 years old. They look to be about the same age.

https://i.postimg.cc/RCPs1WtY/coldwater.jpg
https://goo.gl/maps/9Qpt1KeVGLSGLKvc9

ethereal_reality Jun 30, 2019 6:03 PM

lMysteryl building, Inglewood.

The following two amateur slides were taken by a rail fan. (we recently discussed his slide
from 9th & Hopper that showed one, possibly two, gas tanks HERE)
He also took the slides of the Watts train station, and sub-station, HERE



"Kodachrome Slide, Pacific Electric, LaRy, INGLEWOOD, Substation? HILLCREST Bl. 1950s"

Take a look at this interesting building.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/T7FnyK.jpg
Ebay (no longer listed)

It doesn't look like a sub-station to me. It 'almost' looks like a country school (the upper half, anyway). It also reminds me, somewhat, of an old carriage house.
In the distance, on the right, there appears to be a rather tall house. (or perhaps it's some other type of building)




The seller was impressed enough with the building that he decided to take this second slide.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/P9aAPJ.jpg
Ebay (no longer listed)

The smaller building on the left was partially hidden by a tree, and out of the frame, in the first slide. You can see the roof of a small house beyond the small building.
There is another house(?) in the trees on the right - - >


The seller also included this additional information. She (I think it's a she) pretty much pinpointed the location for us.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/t43M2L.jpg
I saved all this before the ad was taken down.


Soooooo...I checked out the Grace & Hillcrest location. [shown below]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/t9TawE.jpg
Google_Earth

I didn't expect to find the building (although that would have been great!), but I thought there might be some clues.

I didn't find any.

So now it's up to you sleuths. :superwhip

.

HossC Jun 30, 2019 6:42 PM

:previous:

Could this be our mystery building in 1941? I've added an enlargement at the right. Even if it is, it still gives no clue to its purpose.

https://i809.photobucket.com/albums/...Inglewood1.jpg
mil.library.ucsb.edu

odinthor Jun 30, 2019 8:36 PM

:previous: e_r and Hoss . . .

The old Daniel Freeman home was in the middle of the Grace Avenue block, and probably is the rather grand building seen to the right in Hoss's pic; perhaps these smaller buildings are outbuildings of that extensive home...?

https://i.postimg.cc/XvPLT6y4/Freeman11-16-30.jpg
LA Times 11/16/1930 via ProQuest via CSULB Library, much edited, unelucidative pic of patio garden excised

GaylordWilshire Jun 30, 2019 9:34 PM

:previous:


https://i.postimg.cc/25T2C8MM/freemanrender-bmp.jpg



http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics20/00019925.jpg

There are quite a number of old posts on Freeman's spread...

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=9044

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=9039

among others you can see by searching daniel freeman (w/out quotes)

HossC Jun 30, 2019 10:22 PM

:previous:

Daniel Freeman Mansion pre-demolition June 20, 1962

https://i809.photobucket.com/albums/...anMansion1.jpg
www.inglewoodpublicart.org

Even the hospital on that site which was named after Daniel Freeman has now been demolished to make way for luxury housing.

https://i809.photobucket.com/albums/...anMansion2.jpg
urbanize.la


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