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Noir_Noir Jun 27, 2019 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8616960)

If you go to google_earth you can still see where the substation used to stand. ... Click HERE if you'd like to check it out for yourself.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/AQ9rbs.jpg
google_earth

But I'm not 100% sure if it's the 'square' directly below the station..or the larger, undefined area below it. What are your thoughts?

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It was half in, half out of the 'square' (parking lot) directly below the station.


https://i.imgur.com/JAyBhby.jpg
historicaerials.com

Mstimc Jun 27, 2019 1:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8616863)
I appreciate the follow-ups on Barney Blum's Baths, FW & Noir Noir. Thanks for your help.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...921/HpWiZS.jpg
from google_book

The old neon BATHS sign is still there. (per FW's link)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/IVsTzS.png
gsv

It has seen better days.





Asso..oops..Also, have we ever seen the interior of the Edison building? (next door to the bath)... I am especially curious about the atrium...(visible in this aerial)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/lnRUff.jpg
google_earth.

or would this be considered a 'light well'...as opposed to an atrium?



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My vote is "atrium" because its above the roofline. I always thought of light wells going down into a building to bring light and air to inward-facing rooms. IMO.

odinthor Jun 27, 2019 5:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8614808)

507 Ceres Avenue looks somewhat different now . . .

https://i.postimg.cc/XYqbJnDd/507Ceres.jpg
gsv

Flyingwedge Jun 27, 2019 7:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Confessing Sam (Post 8616776)
Hi, everyone!

I stumbled upon this forum while searching for vintage photos of Echo Park, and I'm obsessed.

Also, any photos of The Pike in Long Beach?

Thanks!

Hi, Sam!

Here are a few links to some past Pike posts (by coincidence, all from e_r):

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=24704

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=33706

https://forum.skyscraperpage.com/sho...ostcount=34583

https://forum.skyscraperpage.com/sho...ostcount=43205

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Speaking of Echo Park, here's an aerial showing the former location of a home at 1448 W. Temple Street, a site now just a block west
of the LA Public Library's Echo Park Branch. Also marked are 339 and 372 Laveta Terrace:

https://i1165.photobucket.com/albums...pstk2ctk5x.jpg

Google



This is a c. 1891 view looking south at 1448 W. Temple. The demolition permit for 1448 Temple is dated July 14, 1926:

https://i1165.photobucket.com/albums...psmcaci8i0.jpg

1989-0743 @ CA State Library ("House, view 10 of 39" by William Henry Fletcher)



Here's a closer look at the house. An attorney named Henry Rollins lived there c. 1891-97, so that might be him and his family:

https://i1165.photobucket.com/albums...psx6vkaqf7.jpg



Another close-up; at upper right you might be able to make out 1448, while in the distance at left behind the trees is the second
Ellis College (aka Belmont Hall) building:

https://i1165.photobucket.com/albums...pslbzxsuvg.jpg



One last close-up, from the right side of the full photo, showing 339 Laveta Terrace (then known as Brent Street):

https://i1165.photobucket.com/albums...ps7jijok5f.jpg



You can't see 339 Laveta Terrace very well from the street (the February 2009 GSV is the best view), but here it is with its green roof.
You can see 339 Laveta Terrace numbered 29 Brent on the 1890 Sanborn Map at the Library of Congress, and you can see that house
on the 1894 Sanborn (as 339 Brent) as well:

https://i1165.photobucket.com/albums...g.jpg~original

Google



This is the 1890 Sanborn Map, with Temple Street (and thus north) on the right. Brent Street (now Laveta Terrace) is at the top,
and Patton Street is at the bottom. Fourteen forty-eight Temple is so new it doesn't yet have an address but is instead marked
by its location on lot 15. On the SE corner of Temple and Brent is 1420 Temple:

https://i1165.photobucket.com/albums...ps6yhv4gpo.jpg

Library of Congress



By the 1894 Sanborn, 1448 Temple had picked up the porch on its east side that we see in the c. 1891 photo, and 1420 Temple
was in need of renumbering:

https://i1165.photobucket.com/albums...psvxyzx6kf.jpg

Library of Congress



By the 1906 Sanborn, 1420 Temple had been renumbered 1462. There is a building permit dated May 16, 1910, to move 1462 Temple
to 372 Brent. So, move it to the rear of the lot, next to the 20-foot-wide alley, and rotate it 90 degrees to the left . . .

https://i1165.photobucket.com/albums...psidxysnaz.jpg

ProQuest via LA Public Library



. . . like we see here on the 1950 Sanborn (by which time Brent had been renamed Laveta) . . .

https://i1165.photobucket.com/albums...psjflrvxfe.jpg

ProQuest via LAPL



. . . and like we see here in March 2018:

https://i1165.photobucket.com/albums...ps23s8t8gk.jpg



https://i1165.photobucket.com/albums...pskttbo9p9.jpg

GSV



The front door in May 2014, when the address was easier to see:

https://i1165.photobucket.com/albums...e.jpg~original

GSV

GaylordWilshire Jun 27, 2019 1:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8616950)
I know that we have seen the Watts Station on NLA..

A closer look at the commerce across the street from the station.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/Bm1Boh.jpg
DETAIL


Wondering what the big white building was--I don't think it still "is"... anyone?
(I also like the Rambler...and the rose '55 Merc that appears to have been T-boned....)

Godzilla Jun 27, 2019 4:58 PM

Sunset Tower versus Sunset TowerS? :shrug:


1969 listings: 8300 Sunset Hotel; 8358 Sunset Tower; 8400 Sunset Tower West; 8440 Braemar Towers.


Presumably, 8400 Sunset, which was once the Golden Crest Retirement Center and is currently a Best Western Hotel, was once called Sunset Towers or Sunset Tower West. See NCD's bottom image "1960's view"of two winged structure. But could it have also been the Braemar Towers, but with a different street number?




Quote:

Site is between Sunset and De longpre; cost $125,000; will be 'deluxe' with 100-car underground garage." -- Examiner clipping attached to verso, dated 7 October 1956. "The office section of the new Sunset Crest, designed by Palmer and Krisel, A.I.A. for the George Alexander Company, fronts on Sunset, with the two wings of the apartment house extending south to DeLongpre. Three stories high, the building is constructed on six different levels." -- typed note attached to verso.; "Unique office-apartment structure to open -- $1,250,000 project, on six levels, at 8400 Sunset Boulevard." -- Examiner clipping attached to verso, dated 9 February 1958.
1956 mockup of Sunset Crest Building
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...DMX=0&DMY=0&DMhttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...X=512&DMY=0&DM
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...oll44/id/17274










1976
https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8468/8...8941659d_b.jpghttps://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8468/8...8941659d_b.jpg






Still from Annie Hall
http://nightflight.com/wp-content/up...URCE-5.png.jpghttp://nightflight.com/wp-content/up...URCE-5.png.jpg




Two adjacent "towers"(?)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ywood_2383.jpghttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ywood_2383.jpg





1978
https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6221/6...271d788e6e.jpghttps://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6221/6...271d788e6e.jpg





Braemar TowerS Office, Olive and Sunset, circa 1957. This is likely the current site of the Mondrian (8440 W. Sunset). 1967 listing for Braemar Towers at 8440 West Sunset.

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...24&DMY=1024&DMhttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...36&DMY=1024&DMhttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...24&DMY=1536&DMhttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...36&DMY=1536&DM


http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...DMX=0&DMY=0&DMhttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...X=512&DMY=0&DMhttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...X=0&DMY=512&DMhttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...512&DMY=512&DM
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...oll44/id/80691




1938 (could this image have been taken from same location as above:previous:?
http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/8d2804294a82b28c_largehttp://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/8d2804294a82b28c_large




For context
1938
http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/31686d034c23f3c6_largehttp://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/31686d034c23f3c6_large





Quote:

Originally Posted by Noircitydame (Post 7381797)

Not long after the pool went in, construction started on the apartments seen in the modern Google view from DeLongpre, at 8400 Sunset. Same owners as Sunset Towers and architects Palmer & Kristel again, is was called Sunset West.

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...0%20sunset.jpg lat 10-7-56

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...958%208400.jpg
May 1958 ad for Sunset Tower West. lat

1956 view of the Strip near Sunset Tower
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...014%201956.jpg lapl

1960s view of the same vicinity
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...le/ssstrip.jpg from a postcard, files.






Mondrian 8440 W Sunset
http://imagizer-cv.imageshack.us/v2/...924/prj46d.jpghttp://imagizer-cv.imageshack.us/v2/...924/prj46d.jpg


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...924/VCDKEF.jpg


http://skyscraperpage.com/forum/show...ostcount=41384

SHERIFFPAUL Jun 27, 2019 5:34 PM

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/77/9b...bd60901909.jpg


Early Los Angeles City Views (1800s) Historical Photos of Early Los Angeles

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Scott Charles Jun 27, 2019 5:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Godzilla (Post 8617822)

I used to go to that restaurant all the time, back when it was still called The Source.

https://i.imgur.com/V1pUHV3.jpg https://i.imgur.com/95E2QTY.jpg

It was really good. It's been so long, though, I can't really remember what I used to order. My girlfriend and I would always think of Woody when we ate there. :)

It was one of LA's original, “hippy” era establishments, all of which are rapidly disappearing.

Another one I liked to frequent was The Bodhi Tree at 8585 Melrose. Gone since 2011.

https://i.imgur.com/zBQFSZY.jpg

Godzilla Jun 27, 2019 6:37 PM

:previous:

The Source and its source, Father Yod, have been discussed on NLA. E.g.:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=37615
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=41365
https://la.eater.com/2013/5/13/64357...ian-restaurant





http://www.1970smusicindustrymemorie...dau-1_orig.jpghttp://www.1970smusicindustrymemorie...dau-1_orig.jpg

http://www.lamag.com/wp-content/uplo...amily-blog.jpghttps://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=h...276c7d.jpg&f=1




Another Sunset Blvd. cafe, previously seen on NLA >> http://skyscraperpage.com/forum/show...postcount=6189


Centaur Cafe at 9131 Sunset Blvd., circa '35 (plenty of parking on an unpaved lot, not unlike the Source's)

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...DMX=0&DMY=0&DMhttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...X=512&DMY=0&DMhttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...X=0&DMY=512&DMhttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...512&DMY=512&DM
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si...coll65/id/3911



http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...20&DMY=2048&DMhttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...32&DMY=2048&DM
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...20&DMY=2560&DMhttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...32&DMY=2560&DM








http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...72&DMY=1536&DMhttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...84&DMY=1536&DMhttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...72&DMY=2048&DMhttp://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...84&DMY=2048&DM






Partial directory listings for this location:

1930 - Fred Esmelton
1933 - Cotrell & Pine
1935 - Alf Robinson
1937 - Jane Jones (See below)
1938 - Allan Dale
1939 - Lee Rogers
1956 - Kenneth Hanson's Scandia Restaurant (Which clearly preceded the move in ~ '57-'58 across the street to 9040 Sunset Blvd.


For more details >> https://jhgraham.com/2016/07/13/9131...lvd/#more-2349




Jane Jones

http://www.playgroundtothestars.com/...jane-jones.jpg
http://skyscraperpage.com/forum/show...ostcount=35806
http://www.playgroundtothestars.com/...ne-jones-club/



1938

http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/a1a8a82417c5081c_largehttp://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/a1a8a82417c5081c_large






1941 - Club U'Gene (also at 9131 Sunset) Per source (LAPL) photo taken by Sheriff Vice Squad, September 28, 1941.

https://tessa.lapl.org/utils/ajaxhel...DMX=0&DMY=0&DMhttps://tessa.lapl.org/utils/ajaxhel...X=512&DMY=0&DMhttps://tessa.lapl.org/utils/ajaxhel...X=0&DMY=512&DMhttps://tessa.lapl.org/utils/ajaxhel...512&DMY=512&DMhttps://tessa.lapl.org/cdm/singleite...hotos/id/18015

ethereal_reality Jun 27, 2019 8:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SHERIFFPAUL (Post 8617877)
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/77/9b...bd60901909.jpg
Early Los Angeles City Views (1800s) Historical Photos of Early Los Angeles

Being the snoop that I am...my eyes fixated on the strange object in the foreground.


This thing
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/MduDuF.jpg

Then it dawned on me; Could this be one of those old apothecary signs that featured a mortar and pestle?


Similar to this one.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...921/aWdziF.jpg
WORTHPOINT



Do you think there are enough clues in SheriffPaul's photograph to figure out if the photographer is standing near, or on top of, a pharmacy? :shrug:









Oh, and the business at the end of the block splurged on a new cloth awning.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/7SvWHz.jpg
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HossC Jun 27, 2019 8:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8616950)

A closer look at the commerce across the street from the station.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/Bm1Boh.jpg
DETAIL

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 8617551)

Wondering what the big white building was--I don't think it still "is"... anyone?

In the early-50s it was home to the Haigh Drug Co (below). The 1956 CD lists it as the Bordan Drug Co and the Owl Rexall Drug Co.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6885110)

A couple more pictures of Red Cars from eBay. The first shot is from Watts in 1951. The Haigh Drug Co on the left was at 1701 E 103rd Street.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
eBay

Here's a better view of the Haigh Drug Co building.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original
www.uncanny.net


HossC Jun 27, 2019 9:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8618122)

Being the snoop that I am...my eyes fixated on the strange object in the foreground.

This thing
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/MduDuF.jpg

Then it dawned on me; Could this be one of those old apothecary signs that featured a mortar and pestle?

Do you think there are enough clues in SheriffPaul's photograph to figure out if the photographer is standing near, or on top of, a pharmacy? :shrug:

Here are a couple of wider views showing the mystery object atop a pole.

View of Main Street from the Downey Block with the Lafayette Hotel, containing two stories, on the far left. Last two-story buildings were the Lafayette Store and the PoHeri Store, first meeting place of the Masonic Lodge.

https://i809.photobucket.com/albums/...wneyBlock1.jpg
LAPL

North Main Street, looking south of the Plaza, showing the Downey Block on the left at Temple Street. The second floor housed the photo studio of Henri Penelon, who settled in Los Angeles in 1853. Next, with chimney, is the Lafayette Hotel. In the far background is the Plaza Church belfry. 1873 saw the organization of the Chamber of Commerce and the opening of the first public library on the site of the later Federal Building. By 1876 the Southern Pacific Railroad had linked the city with the rest of the country.

https://i809.photobucket.com/albums/...wneyBlock2.jpg
LAPL

Noir_Noir Jun 27, 2019 10:55 PM

:previous:


Theodore Wollweber's Apothecaries Hall at 59 Main Street circa 1870.

https://i.imgur.com/pEXuD6G.jpg


Detail from

https://i.imgur.com/4QKmFTj.jpg
waterandpower.org

odinthor Jun 27, 2019 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8618122)
Being the snoop that I am...my eyes fixated on the strange object in the foreground.


This thing
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/MduDuF.jpg

Then it dawned on me; Could this be one of those old apothecary signs that featured a mortar and pestle?


Similar to this one.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...921/aWdziF.jpg
WORTHPOINT



Do you think there are enough clues in SheriffPaul's photograph to figure out if the photographer is standing near, or on top of, a pharmacy? :shrug:
[...]

e_r, I think the photographer is standing on the roof or a balcony of the US Hotel:

https://i.postimg.cc/T3krhThv/Main-USHotel.jpg
image from http://web.csulb.edu/~odinthor/botello.html

The ground floor of hotels would usually host storefronts, so it's not unlikely that there was a little drug store prompting the sign.

Me, I looked at the mystery object (mortar and pestle) and thought, "Look! The Sword in the Stone!"

Albany NY Jun 28, 2019 12:28 AM

Blast From The Past
 
Originally Posted by Godzilla (I think)

Still from Annie Hall
http://nightflight.com/wp-content/up...URCE-5.png.jpghttp://nightflight.com/wp-content/up...URCE-5.png.jpg

I recognized Gary Mule Deer in this photo. He's obviously the guy with the 'fro. Back in the '70's he was everywhere on TV. Sadly, I can't find any mention of him being involved with anything noirish in LA, or anywhere else. (sigh) Maybe some day! Just a small murder, or at least an armed robbery. C'mon, Gary, is that too much to ask?!

CaliNative Jun 28, 2019 6:46 AM

Anybody remember the Sea Lion seafood restaurant on PCH in Malibu? When I was a kid in the '60s, my family and I used to regularly make the trip down Topanga Canyon Rd, to the Sea Lion on the weekend for a nice sea food dinner and as a cool escape from the blazing summer heat of the San Fernando Valley. They had picture windows looking out at the crashing waves, and the bigger waves actually hit the windows. We were told they were strong, but apparently some of the el nino storms in the '70s or '80s finally broke through them and trashed the place. I remember the Sea Lion had a concrete seal balancing a concrete ball on its nose out front. Any noirishers have any pics? We once saw Mayor Yorty eating there. Another time, Jack Benny and his wife. Jack left a nice tip (we were just a couple of tables away). The Benny is cheap joke was just a joke, not true. He drove a Caddy, not a Maxwell. And Rochester wasn't his driver. Benny was nice to people who bothered him for an autograph, but seemed a bit annoyed as would anyone interrupted at dinner. Surprised he didn't have a private room.

AlvaroLegido Jun 28, 2019 5:04 PM

Tommy ?
 
The man in profile on the left looks like my favorite trombonist... I mean Tommy Dorsey.

Lwize Jun 28, 2019 5:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliNative (Post 8618559)
Anybody remember the Sea Lion seafood restaurant on PCH in Malibu? When I was a kid in the '60s, my family and I used to regularly make the trip down Topanga Canyon Rd, to the Sea Lion on the weekend for a nice sea food dinner and as a cool escape from the blazing summer heat of the San Fernando Valley. They had picture windows looking out at the crashing waves, and the bigger waves actually hit the windows. We were told they were strong, but apparently some of the el nino storms in the '70s or '80s finally broke through them and trashed the place. I remember the Sea Lion had a concrete seal balancing a concrete ball on its nose out front. Any noirishers have any pics?

I remember, and miss the place. I think it's a Duke's now.

Sorry, no pictures.

HossC Jun 28, 2019 6:26 PM

:previous:

I found this postcard of the Malibu Sea Lion dated "1960-70s". It has a couple of interior views.

https://i809.photobucket.com/albums/...ionMalibu1.jpg
https://i809.photobucket.com/albums/...ionMalibu2.jpg

www.hippostcard.com

oldstuff Jun 28, 2019 6:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lwize (Post 8618946)
I remember, and miss the place. I think it's a Duke's now.

Sorry, no pictures.

There was a restaurant at that location at least as early as the late 1920's when it was the Las Flores Inn, named for Las Flores Creek which met the ocean there. The owner sold to Chris Polos who turned it into the Malibu Sea Lion Restauarnt. There are pictures online of it is various iterations.


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