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Fab Fifties Fan Jul 21, 2011 4:39 PM

Red Cars
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pwrof3 (Post 5353418)
Browsing through this thread, I have seen a lot of posts about the old red car rail lines.

I stumbled upon this one day when looking up directions in Long Beach.
I have created a Google map that highlights where the now abandoned route went.
It is very interesting in that Long Beach never restructured or rebuilt the area and most of it is an empty stretch of land. There are a few parks, houses, storage yards and the like. The best part is that the land was never altered and the homes were built on a diagonal from the rest of the neighborhoods!

Check out the map I made, and the pins that go along with it. Start from the northern tip of the map and make your way down the historic rail line!

Note: it is best to zoom in a little, but note that halfway through the map freaks out for a minute, so you may need to zoom out a bit and then zoom back in.

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msa=0...b3aa48792089b1

That is great stuff pwrof3, thank you so much for sharing!!! With the fact that so much of the route land is still open, it makes one hope that maybe, just maybe a new line will be built someday. That would be awesome:yes:

Now for some red car sadness:
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/5...doftheline.jpg
http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/7...inalisland.jpg

A small number of the retired red cars were sold to other cities around the world that still had the foresight to realize the ongoing need for electric transit. The vast majority, however, were stripped of anything that could float and then dropped into the ocean to serve as foundations for coral reefs.

Grrrr:hell:

LAPL

transitfan Jul 21, 2011 4:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Fab Fifties Fan (Post 5353921)
That is great stuff pwrof3, thank you so much for sharing!!! With the fact that so much of the route land is still open, it makes one hope that maybe, just maybe a new line will be built someday. That would be awesome:yes:

Now for some red car sadness:
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/5...doftheline.jpg
http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/7...inalisland.jpg

A small number of the retired red cars were sold to other cities around the world that still had the foresight to realize the ongoing need for electric transit. The vast majority, however, were stripped of anything that could float and then dropped into the ocean to serve as foundations for coral reefs.

Grrrr:hell:

LAPL


Heart-rending :(

The Hollywood cars are my favorite Red Cars. Happily, 2 of them (637 and 717) are preserved at the Orange Empire Railway Museum in Perris. 717 is in running condition, I think they are trying to restore 637 to run (if they haven't already done so, I haven't been to OERM in 15 years).

Fab Fifties Fan Jul 22, 2011 5:06 AM

Question for you Los Angeles experts
 
I was cruising back through the thread (again) now that I am more familiar with vanished Los Angeles and am curious what the rounded building with the arches is right of center in this photo? I should probably recognize it by now, but I don't.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 4832391)
Six photographs from a panorama taken in 1913.


http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/8...ive7th1913.jpg


All the photographs are from the USC Digital Archive.


GaylordWilshire Jul 22, 2011 4:18 PM

:previous:

That's the First Methodist Episcopal Church at Hill & 6th. Here's a nice early shot of it:

http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics46/00042634.jpgLAPL

Fab Fifties Fan Jul 22, 2011 4:34 PM

Thank you GaylordWilshire! I was guessing church or auditorium.

~F3

ethereal_reality Jul 22, 2011 7:51 PM

The first bar to open after the repeal of prohibition.

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/155...ute1a6lapl.jpg
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http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/9...on1933oneo.jpg
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Does anyone know where in L.A. this was located?

OldFontuckyHomer Jul 22, 2011 9:56 PM

They don't make saloons like that anymore.

Los Angeles Past Jul 22, 2011 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5355435)
The first bar to open after the repeal of prohibition.

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/155...ute1a6lapl.jpg
lapl

I wonder if this bar was named after the Malamute Saloon in 'The Shooting of Dan McGrew'?

-S

Fab Fifties Fan Jul 23, 2011 2:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Los Angeles Past (Post 5355702)
I wonder if this bar was named after the Malamute Saloon in 'The Shooting of Dan McGrew'?

-S

Hmmmm, the address over the door is 1016 but 1016 what????:koko:

GaylordWilshire Jul 23, 2011 3:11 AM

:previous:

Well, there was once a bread made in L.A. called Log Cabin. Looks like that might be one of its signs to the right in one of the pictures below. Maybe the Malamute was once a bakery....

pwrof3 Jul 23, 2011 9:45 PM

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Originally Posted by sopas ej (Post 4576944)

Northwest corner of Hill and 7th, 1939
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/5...erofhillan.jpg
USC archive

Of COURSE it's 1939; "Dark Victory" is playing!

Seeing this photo made me remember "driving" past it in the L.A. Noire video game.
I looked it up to see if it was still there, and it is.
I've lived in Los Angeles my entire life and have never been to this part of town, mostly due to not wanting to be get stuck there at night.

If you look at the modern photo, it almost loses the noir quality when shown in color, doesn't it?

https://sn2files.storage.live.com/y1...ill.jpg?psid=1

ethereal_reality Jul 24, 2011 2:22 PM

^^^That is quite an impressive building pwrof3.



I've posted numerous photos of adobes that survived into the 1940s in the old Sonora town area.
I remember the building with the Wrigley's gum advertisement but not the El Adobe Cafe.

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/1...n1940froms.jpg
usc digital archive

What is on the roof......tar paper?

Fab Fifties Fan Jul 25, 2011 5:58 PM

Woodbury Illustration
 
Hey Scott,

Just stumbled across this image of the 1923-36 Woodbury College. Not a photo, but a heck of alot better that that mega copied flyer.

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/8...iglocation.jpg

~F3

SDPL

Los Angeles Past Jul 25, 2011 6:44 PM

:previous:
Outstanding! Thank you so much!

LAboomer52 Jul 26, 2011 11:02 PM

Where is this??: my favorite game!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Handsome Stranger (Post 5353015)
Just stumbled across this mystery photo in the "Vintage Los Angeles" pool at Flickr. It's dated February 1938 but there's no specific location given. Griffith Observatory is barely visible at the left.

It looks like the cross street in the middle of the photo intersects at an angle, which made me think it could be San Vicente. But I can't quite match up the topography in the photo with the intersections of San Vicente I am familiar with.

Anyone have any insight into where this photo might have been taken?

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6052/...4f8d909e_b.jpg

source: Flickr

Thanks for the picture and question Handsome Stranger. My guess is Wilshire Blvd around Doheney or Robertson.

In this pre Beverly Wilshire Hotel 1929 shot of Wilshire in Beverly Hills, you can see the water tower in West Hollywood that serves as a reference to the mystery shot. I think it was taken further east around Doheney or Robertson.
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics01/00020301.jpg
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics01/00020301.jpg
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics01/00020301.jpg

In this 1929 photo of Wilshire looking east from Fairfax, you can see the transition from the characteristic Los Angeles Wilshire street lights, to the Beverly Hills Wilshire street lights seen in the mystery photo.
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...HS-7136.1?v=hr
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...iew/CHS-7136.1

But in this areal looking NW from Wilshire and Doheny the Wilshire street lights are not the same.
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics01/00020269.jpg
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics01/00020269.jpg
So, in the end I'm still stumped! It could be Olympic or even Pico, on the eastern side of Beverly Hills though, for sure.

Sebisebster Jul 27, 2011 1:31 PM

Pacific Mutual Building: then and now
 
All pictures are taken from LAPL and USC Digital Archive.

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/1066/uffwp.jpg

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Corner of 6th St and Olive, 1930 and 1951.



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6th street and Olive, 1931 and 1975. Notice a sight of the old Richfield Tower in the picture above.


as time went by...

http://img803.imageshack.us/img803/8020/montajeh.jpg

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... the beginning:

http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/5364/1909s.jpg

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Fab Fifties Fan Jul 27, 2011 5:22 PM

Great then and now photos Sebisebster!!!

So very interesting. I have to say that I'm most intrigued by the 1930 photo with the very cool clock on the roof and the backdrop of the Pacific Mutual Life sign. I am sure it all lit up at night and I am now obssessed with imagining the colors, etc. It must have truly been a sight to see!

~F3

so-cal-bear Jul 27, 2011 5:47 PM

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Handsome Stranger Jul 27, 2011 7:02 PM

Thanks for that follow-up, LAboomer52. Glad you pointed out the Beverly Hills street lamps, and the water tower! I think you're right that the street could be Olympic or Pico.

Fab Fifties Fan Jul 27, 2011 8:04 PM

This photo that LAboomer52 posted reminded me of the open question from when it was posted way back in the thread. What was that odd walled building center left?

I am now wondering if it had been a hanger for the airfield that was once on the corner of Wilshire and Fairfax??? It looks a lot like a large cavernous maintenance hanger that used to be here at the San Diego airport.


In this 1929 photo of Wilshire looking east from Fairfax, you can see the transition from the characteristic Los Angeles Wilshire street lights, to the Beverly Hills Wilshire street lights seen in the mystery photo.
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...HS-7136.1?v=hr
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...iew/CHS-7136.1


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