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NYguy Jul 2, 2012 11:27 AM

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/j...ckJLShotvEQ7QJ

Jets, Giants sue to block New Jersey megamall

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June 26, 2012

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Officials from the New York Giants and the New York Jets said the proposed "American Dream Meadowlands" megamall violates an agreement that grants them approval of any expansion plans at the Meadowlands complex, located about 10 miles west of New York City in East Rutherford. The mall site sits across a highway from the $1.6 billion MetLife Stadium where both teams play and where the 2014 Super Bowl is slated to be held. Lawyers representing the teams claim the project will create "a transportation nightmare" that will adversely affect football fans, according to the injunction, filed Friday in superior court in Bergen County


http://www.hudsonreporter.com/view/f...ry_left_column

Mayors consider joining Jets and Giants lawsuit against American Dream project

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June 27, 2012

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The mayors that represent the 14 Meadowlands District municipalities are considering joining the New York Giants and New York Jets in a lawsuit filed last week against the expansion plans for the American Dream project, a mega-retail and entertainment complex that is being built on Route 3 near the MetLife Stadium. The project was formerly known as "Xanadu."

Both sports teams are seeking an injuction to prevent the developers Triple Five Group from reviving the project, according to news reports. The lawsuit filed in a state court in Bergen County last week alleges that Triple Five did not receive their consent to expand the project.

"We are actually considering filing an amicus brief and joining the Giants and the Jets suit because we have no other alternative," said William Roseman, Mayor of Carlstadt during a meeting of the New Jersey Meadowlands Commission (NJMC) this morning (Wednesday morning). "[We have] no other avenue for us to address the impact this is going to have."

sbarn Jul 4, 2012 6:23 PM

What a clusterf**k. I think one of those teams should have tried to build a stadium in the outer boroughs of NYC so there would be better public transportation access. Either by Aqueduct Raceway or Willets Point would have been good potential sites.

NYguy Jul 5, 2012 1:52 PM

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Originally Posted by sbarn (Post 5756128)
What a clusterf**k. I think one of those teams should have tried to build a stadium in the outer boroughs of NYC so there would be better public transportation access. Either by Aqueduct Raceway or Willets Point would have been good potential sites.

One of them did, the JETS. They were well on their way, even after the state's portion of the funding was knocked down by Silver. It was a small percentage, but the overall cost of building that stadium proved to be too much, and even the Queens alternative wasn't worth it when the GIANTS came with a solution - build a shared stadium in the Meadowlands at much less the cost.

NYguy Jul 11, 2012 12:56 PM

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/11/ny...1&ref=nyregion

DreamWorks Animation Announces Plans for Meadowlands Amusement Park

By CHARLES V. BAGLI
July 10, 2012

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The Hollywood studio DreamWorks Animation has struck a deal to bring Shrek, Kung Fu Panda and other animated movie characters to a planned amusement park as part of a revived entertainment and retail mall in the New Jersey Meadowlands.

It would be the first theme park based on the studio’s animated movies since DreamWorks’s earlier plans for parks in China, Abu Dhabi and Dubai failed to work out. DreamWorks has sought to capitalize on the huge popularity of its films, much as Disney and Universal Studios have in the United States, Europe and Asia. The indoor theme park would include rides, attractions and a glass-enclosed wave pool incorporating characters from the studio’s movies.

Triple Five, the developer of the Mall of America, has renamed the project American Dream and drawn up plans to make it even bigger, with nearly 1.7 million square feet of retail space, an indoor ski hill, indoor sky diving, bowling, an aquarium, a live theater and the 14.7-acre amusement park.


Nexis4Jersey Jul 11, 2012 2:22 PM

What a joke , the Highway system cannot handle all the extra congestion and the further damage to the Meadowlands will hurt the regional Eco-system. Also the land is soft and can't support a massive building hench the cracks...why not build something like this in Jersey City or Elizabeth or Secaucus?

Crawford Jul 11, 2012 2:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Nexis4Jersey (Post 5762181)
What a joke , the Highway system cannot handle all the extra congestion and the further damage to the Meadowlands will hurt the regional Eco-system. Also the land is soft and can't support a massive building hench the cracks...why not build something like this in Jersey City or Elizabeth or Secaucus?

The American Dream complex is already on a rail line, and obviously the cities you mention don't have hundreds of acres of prime empty land for amusement parks and the like.

Nexis4Jersey Jul 12, 2012 3:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Crawford (Post 5762202)
The American Dream complex is already on a rail line, and obviously the cities you mention don't have hundreds of acres of prime empty land for amusement parks and the like.

We already have 4 Mega Malls in this county will huge traffic headaches , the Rail line Question is not in service except Game days and NJT hasn't hinted at turning into a regular line. The Cities I mention do have alot of un-used land about 1 SQ worth...some cases... Is there a need for this ? Alot of people in the area are against this project due to the botched past and lack of infrastructure , we always seem to get the short end of the stick or given the bill which taxes then go up. There was also alot of corruption with this project , tax breaks and abatement's....money not well spent considering the state isn't in good shop. You could argue jobs , but there mostly Min wage Jobs...

blacktrojan3921 Jul 12, 2012 3:29 AM

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Originally Posted by NYguy (Post 5756764)
One of them did, the JETS. They were well on their way, even after the state's portion of the funding was knocked down by Silver. It was a small percentage, but the overall cost of building that stadium proved to be too much, and even the Queens alternative wasn't worth it when the GIANTS came with a solution - build a shared stadium in the Meadowlands at much less the cost.

Didn't help with the fact that in order for the Jets Stadium to be build, it was planned to be the centerpiece of NYC's doomed 2012 Olympic bid

Crawford Jul 12, 2012 6:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Nexis4Jersey (Post 5763082)
We already have 4 Mega Malls in this county will huge traffic headaches , the Rail line Question is not in service except Game days and NJT hasn't hinted at turning into a regular line.

Not true. NJ Transit already said they will turn it into regular service once the complex opens.

There currently is no regular service because there is nothing there. They currently only run service when there are events at the stadium or arena. Obviously this changes once there are tons of hotels, shops, attractions, etc.

The whole point of the chosen location is to take advantage of the rail access to Manhattan.

Crawford Jul 12, 2012 6:33 PM

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Originally Posted by blacktrojan3921 (Post 5763086)
Didn't help with the fact that in order for the Jets Stadium to be build, it was planned to be the centerpiece of NYC's doomed 2012 Olympic bid

The Manhattan Jets/Olympic proposal was already cancelled before the Olympics vote.

There was no Olympic stadium plan when the vote was taken, though there was a last-ditch proposal to put it in Queens.

NYguy Jul 13, 2012 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by blacktrojan3921 (Post 5763086)
Didn't help with the fact that in order for the Jets Stadium to be build, it was planned to be the centerpiece of NYC's doomed 2012 Olympic bid

That had nothing to do with it. The stadium was going to be built, it was what helped the City with that bid.

It doesn't matter now. The Giants and Jets are both in the meadowlands, and they don't want this megamall/amusement park built. But it seems a little late for that now.


http://www.nj.com/bergen/index.ssf/2...s_lawsuit.html

American Dream Meadowlands developers ask court to throw out Jets, Giants lawsuit

July 10, 2012

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The developers of the American Dream Meadowlands project are asking a superior court to throw out a lawsuit filed against them by their neighbors, the ownership of the New York Jets and Giants football teams.

The teams' suit, filed in Bergen County Superior Court in June, contended that the developers had violated a 2006 agreement of cooperation by not seeking their consent for the additional facilities, planned to be built adjacent to the existing structure.

"The litigation is a transparent attempt to circumvent an ongoing, state mandated, legislatively promulgated administrative review process," Triple Five spokesman Alan Marcus said in a statement following the motion. "The teams are attempting to use the courts to make our days and hours of operation subject to their self-interest in controlling the entire complex on game days."

Karen J. Kessler, a spokeswoman for the Giants and Jets, described the motion as "meritless.

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http://www.northjersey.com/news/NJ_S...m_project.html

N.J. Sports Exposition Authority joins developer in seeking dismissal of Jets, Giants suit

July 12, 2012
BY JOHN BRENNAN

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The state agency that serves as landlord for MetLife Stadium and the planned American Dream project has taken the side of the mall developers in their legal dispute with the football teams that play at the stadium. Attorneys for the New Jersey Sports and Exposition Authority filed a motion late Wednesday in Superior Court in Hackensack to dismiss the bid by the Giants and the Jets for an injunction against plans to expand the project beyond the existing elements of the former Xanadu complex. Triple Five¸ the developer, wants to add indoor water and amusement parks as part of what would become a $3.7-billion project.

“The teams are essentially asking this court for an opinion based on a hypothetical action: If the modification is approved, and the modification results in an adverse effect on the Teams’ use of the sports complex, then the Teams’ consent rights have been violated,” the attorneys wrote. “The Court need not reach such a hypothetical determination at this time. Indeed, it is possible that the [NJSEA’s master plan committee] could reject Triple Five’s proposal, which of course would obviate the need for the Teams’ lawsuit entirely.”


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http://community.nasdaq.com/News/201...storyid=155005

Can DreamWorks' Indoor Theme Park Outshine Disney World?

7/11/2012
by Louis Bedigian

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DreamWorks (NASDAQ: DWA ) has signed a deal with Triple Five to produce an indoor theme park in the New Jersey Meadowlands. Designed as part of the American Dream project, the theme park will feature characters from the animation studio's most popular films, including Shrek, How to Train Your Dragon, Kung Fu Panda, Puss in Boots, and Madagascar.

In addition to the DreamWorks theme park, American Dream will feature an indoor water park, an indoor ice skating rink, an indoor ski and snowboard park, a movie theater, nearly 1.7 million square feet of retail space, and 150,000 square feet of "fine dining" and restaurants.

The project is 80 percent complete. But according to American Dream's website , "Triple Five and its team of experts, architects and designers are making changes to the exterior to improve aesthetics and to the interior to improve retail attraction and retention. Triple Five is also adding new world scale interactive components including, amongst other things, an amusement park, ice rink and water park, to make American Dream a true tourism entertainment center."

The theme park portion of American Dream will be the first in North America to exclusively feature DreamWorks Animation characters.

CalibratedZeus Jul 28, 2012 4:33 PM

Water approved
 
Another step closer. Personally not a fan of the project but as long as thy get rid of that eyesore of a facade from Xanadu, at least it will be an improvement.

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The(American)Dream advances
Jul 28th, 2012 @ 09:59 am › John Brennan
http://blog.northjersey.com/meadowla...ream-advances/

The New Jersey Department of Environmental Protection has just given out its water quality permits to Triple Five for the planned indoor water and amusement parks at the American Dream Meadowlands site formerly known as Xanadu.

Now, just a few other hurdles remain – in some cases, potentially enormous hurdles – before this entertainment and retail project with a Dreamworks Animation theme (think Shrek + Madagascar) opens sometime in 2014:

- Federal environmental permits also are needed. This always was seen as more complicated than the state version, but insiders seem less worried than earlier in the year. The public comments period to the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers ended Friday, and it’s not clear what would stop this permit from going ahead now.

- Triple Five needs to close its deal on a $2 billion financing package. The appropriate mega-lenders have been wooed, but it’s been nearly a year and still nothing has been announced. Some familiar with this project find that odd, and a bit worrisome for supporters. But no one seems to think it’s dead in the water.

- The Giants and Jets have sued to prevent the indoor water and amusement parks from being open on game days. Still no settlement, with a court date looming soon. Whatever the merits of Triple Five’s argument, they might have made it easier on themselves if they had shown the teams more deference six months ago. It sure wouldn’t have hurt.

Nexis4Jersey Jul 28, 2012 4:40 PM

I guess if you pay even more people off you can get your project advanced....what a joke this state is..

NYC4Life Sep 20, 2012 4:24 PM

NEWS 12 New Jersey

Gov. Christie points fingers at Giants, Jets over jobs

http://www.news12.com/articleDetail....news_type=news

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(09/19/12) SOUTH AMBOY - Gov. Chris Christie (R-New Jersey) is putting some of the blame on Jets and Giants ownership for keeping people in New Jersey out of work.

In a town hall meeting in South Amboy today, Gov. Christie pointed to the team's pending lawsuits against the state over construction of the American Dream project at the Meadowlands.

The project is expected to create up to 9,000 new construction jobs and 5,000 permanent jobs.

The teams, however, are suing the New Jersey Sports and Exposition Authority for agreeing to expand the Meadowlands without the team's approval.

Construction on the site is pending because of the lawsuit.



(©) News12 Interactive, Inc. 2012

Renton Mar 4, 2013 2:24 PM

Project is a total disaster. And this uncompleted mess with be in view of the entire world for next years Super Bowl. Still can't believe this project even got the go ahead in the first place. Like we need another mall in Jersey. Plus like users said, traffic is a mess already. The Revel Casino looks good in comparison to this nightmare. By a miracle if they ever do complete this, who will go? I live in Union County. I'm not blowing 6 bucks in tolls just to go here when I have 3 big malls right down the road that don't cost me a thing.

NYguy Mar 4, 2013 8:10 PM

^ Well, this is far more than just a mall.

Crawford Mar 4, 2013 8:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Renton (Post 6037314)
Like we need another mall in Jersey. Plus like users said, traffic is a mess already.

This project isn't a mall. It has nothing to do with competition from malls. It's basically an indoor amusement park complex.

And I don't get the "traffic is a mess already" argument. This means NJ should stop developing anything, because there's traffic? Traffic is a sign of prosperity.

aquablue Mar 5, 2013 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Crawford (Post 6037774)
This project isn't a mall. It has nothing to do with competition from malls. It's basically an indoor amusement park complex.

And I don't get the "traffic is a mess already" argument. This means NJ should stop developing anything, because there's traffic? Traffic is a sign of prosperity.

NJ should develop more public transit, i.e, rail, which will mean that such large developments are less likely to face opposition due to traffic arguments. The Governor seems like an short sighted man who is anti-rail or something. Pity you'll have him for another 4 years. Perhaps if this is a real hit, there will be no choice but to look at expanding rail there in the future.

Crawford Mar 5, 2013 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by aquablue (Post 6038079)
NJ should develop more public transit, i.e, rail, which will mean that such large developments are less likely to face opposition due to traffic arguments. The Governor seems like an short sighted man who is anti-rail or something. Pity you'll have him for another 4 years. Perhaps if this is a real hit, there will be no choice but to look at expanding rail there in the future.

I agree with all this, but the site already has direct rail from Manhattan. They built a new rail line to the Meadowlands a few years ago.

I mean, that's a big reason why this was built in the first place. They're trying to attract tourists who otherwise stay mostly in Manhattan.

aquablue Mar 5, 2013 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Crawford (Post 6038088)
I agree with all this, but the site already has direct rail from Manhattan. They built a new rail line to the Meadowlands a few years ago.

I mean, that's a big reason why this was built in the first place. They're trying to attract tourists who otherwise stay mostly in Manhattan.

However, that rail link is not frequent. It needs to be electrified and have regular service.

Crawford Mar 5, 2013 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by aquablue (Post 6038130)
However, that rail link is not frequent. It needs to be electrified and have regular service.

That's because the American Dream complex isn't opened yet. There's nothing there right now.

In fact, the rail line doesn't operate at all, unless there's an event at the Meadowlands Sports Complex. There has never been "normal" rail service on this line.

When they built the line, they always said they wouldn't open it for regular service until the Xanadu (now American Dream) complex opens. The original developers, BTW, had to pay a significant portion of the construction costs.

Nexis4Jersey Mar 5, 2013 2:06 PM

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Originally Posted by NYguy (Post 6037762)
^ Well, this is far more than just a mall.

Its still a boondoggle that no one really wants , but the greedy developers smooth talk their way into tax breaks from there buddies in Trenton while leaving the County and local towns high dry.

Nexis4Jersey Mar 5, 2013 2:12 PM

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Originally Posted by aquablue (Post 6038079)
NJ should develop more public transit, i.e, rail, which will mean that such large developments are less likely to face opposition due to traffic arguments. The Governor seems like an short sighted man who is anti-rail or something. Pity you'll have him for another 4 years. Perhaps if this is a real hit, there will be no choice but to look at expanding rail there in the future.

We are developing more Rail , all of our plans have stalled and not due to the Governor which supports the other projects but due to NJT's incompetence.... I don't support adding Rail to this complex at least not intill the backlog of projects like the Hudson Bergen LRT Expansions or the Newark LRT expansions are completed or the Southern Jersey network which has been promised for over 15 years and nothing has moved yet. So if this project were to receive upgrades it would outrage the entire state while benefiting less then those said projects. As from LRT there are a slew of Regional Rail and Bus Rapid projects that NJT would like to do , but for some reason even with Governor support hasn't. The Developer should have to pay for the LRT extension not us tax payers ,it really only benefits him and not the state from a transportation view like any of the backlogged projects.

Nexis4Jersey Mar 5, 2013 2:15 PM

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Originally Posted by aquablue (Post 6038130)
However, that rail link is not frequent. It needs to be electrified and have regular service.

The whole NJT system was originally supposed to be Electrified , but that was canceled due to costs. However they are ordering DMU's to replace the push-pulls. What would electrification really do for the line , shave off 10 mins? Its a very curvy line unlike the Main line or even Bergen County line....and you have to merge a few times very slowly.

NYguy May 31, 2013 2:42 PM

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...NewsCollection

Jets, Giants Sue Over Mall Near Stadium


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May 30, 2013
By HEATHER HADDON

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The New York Jets and Giants sued Thursday to block the further development of a shopping and theme-park complex adjacent to MetLife Stadium, saying its owners hadn't negotiated in good faith on issues of traffic and whether the complex could operate on Sundays.

"We have bent over backwards to try to accommodate this project because the governor has stated how important it is to him and to the state," said John Mara, co-owner of the Giants, speaking alongside Jets owner Woody Johnson during a 30-minute interview Thursday.

The men were making their first joint comments on the American Dream complex, which would consist of a mall once known as Xanadu, as yet unfinished, and a newly proposed 639,000-square-foot indoor theme and water park.

The National Football League teams argue that the complex's vehicle traffic would cause unbearable congestion for their fans. The team owners also want the bulk of the complex to be shut down on the roughly 16 Sundays when they play at home a year, a limit on the cars visiting the complex on those football Sundays and a traffic-management plan.

The project's new developers—Triple Five of Edmonton, Canada—don't want to close on Sundays, arguing it would undercut their business. Bergen County's blue laws forbid shopping on Sunday, but the proposed theme park could operate on that day.

"We cannot interrupt service to our entertainment patrons at the time when they most want to visit," said Alan Marcus, a spokesman for Triple Five. Sundays are key days for tourists and families who will potentially visit the complex, he said.

The teams signed off on the original Xanadu complex in 2006 before building the MetLife Stadium. If they had known the mall would expand to include the entertainment wing, they would have had "second thoughts" about building the new stadium there, said Mr. Johnson.

"We probably wouldn't have built this stadium if we had known that they would build something across the street that would flood the roads with traffic and make it impossible for our fans to get to the game," he said.


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NYC4Life May 31, 2013 8:53 PM

What a disaster this development has been. While I believe this section of the Meadowlands could use more development, The Xanadu is possibly the worst type of idea and too close to the sports complex. Not to forget none of it has come to fruition.

Crawford May 31, 2013 9:23 PM

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Originally Posted by NYC4Life (Post 6148679)
What a disaster this development has been. While I believe this section of the Meadowlands could use more development, The Xanadu is possibly the worst type of idea and too close to the sports complex. Not to forget none of it has come to fruition.

The mall/entertainment complex is actually a much better idea than the stadium. It will provide 7-day-a-week activity, and real economic development (tourism and the like) rather than just a limited number of events over at Giants Stadium.

The traffic concerns are bogus. There's a (very expensive) new rail line direct to the Meadowlands, and light rail is coming eventually. If they're really so concerned about congestion, then how about working with the state to advance additional transit improvements.

Too bad the Giants/Jets won't play nice.

Renton Jun 3, 2013 3:01 PM

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Originally Posted by NYC4Life (Post 6148679)
What a disaster this development has been. While I believe this section of the Meadowlands could use more development, The Xanadu is possibly the worst type of idea and too close to the sports complex. Not to forget none of it has come to fruition.

You have more than just the football games. Concerts, circus, whatever else they hold at the Meadowlands. The Giants and Jets have every right to block this mess.

Hamilton Jun 6, 2013 1:32 AM

This section of the Meadowlands could use LESS development. They never should've paved over marshes for this abomination.

Hamilton Jun 6, 2013 1:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Crawford (Post 6148737)
light rail is coming eventually. If they're really so concerned about congestion, then how about working with the state to advance additional transit improvements.


LOL not while Christie is governor...

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Originally Posted by Nexis4Jersey
all of our plans have stalled and not due to the Governor which supports the other projects but due to NJT's incompetence.

Untrue. You realize Christie has cut hundreds of millions from NJTransit, right? But he's expert at playing the blame game. He's learned that if he screams loudly and emotionally enough, he can get the public to pin the blame on anyone other than himself.

Nexis4Jersey Jun 6, 2013 1:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Hamilton (Post 6154641)
LOL not while Christie is governor...



Untrue. You realize Christie has cut hundreds of millions from NJTransit, right? But he's expert at playing the blame game. He's learned that if he screams loudly and emotionally enough, he can get the public to pin the blame on anyone other than himself.

He did restore what he cut , so it is NJT incompetence....which goes back 15 years...the whole top level sections of NJT need to be fired... Same with the LIRR and MTA a house cleaning is needed....

NYguy Jun 11, 2013 1:01 PM

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/10/ny...soon.html?_r=0

Work Is to Begin Soon on a Failed Meadowlands Mall


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By CHARLES V. BAGLI
June 9, 2013


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The empty shell of the enormous retail and entertainment complex in the New Jersey Meadowlands, formerly known as Xanadu, has served as a daily reminder of how outsize ambitions made it one of the most notorious examples of the real estate collapse. Now, a new developer says the former Xanadu project is about to become a testament to the rebounding market.

Triple Five Worldwide, the company chosen more than two years ago by Gov. Chris Christie to revive the project, says it plans to resume construction in the coming weeks, more than four years after work stopped.

The company, a conglomerate based in Canada that owns two of the world’s largest malls, plans to spend $1.7 billion, on top of the $1.9 billion spent by two previous developers.

“Our intent is to start shortly,” said Tony Armlin, vice president for development construction at Triple Five. “We’ve never wavered in our intent to move forward. This is a great project.”

The current vision for the project is even bigger than the initial conception that failed so incredibly. It now has approvals to add an exotic glass-domed water park and an amusement park inspired by DreamWorks Animation — in addition to the performing arts center, indoor ski hill, movie theater, 400 shops and more than 50 restaurants already planned for what they call American Dream Meadowlands.

But the hundreds of thousands of drivers who pass the derelict structure during every rush hour might be forgiven for their skepticism. After all, highly publicized starting dates have flown by like exit ramps on the Garden State Parkway with little to show for it.

Most recently Governor Christie, who has promoted the project politically and financially, promised that it would be open by the time the area welcomes visitors to the 2014 Super Bowl, a date the company has acknowledged it will not meet.

That is why Triple Five has pushed to expand the project on an adjoining wetland parcel with an enclosed water park and, in partnership with DreamWorks, an amusement park based on Shrek, Kung Fu Panda and other animated movie characters. “They had omitted one key feature: the amusements necessary to becoming a true tourist destination,” he said.

Triple Five, which is owned by the Ghermezian family, envisions American Dream as a sister complex to the Mall of America in Minnesota and the West Edmonton Mall in Canada.

But the Giants and the Jets want the amusement and water parks closed on game days, arguing that the crowds will wreak havoc. Their lease has what is effectively a veto over any expansion of the original mall. “Our endgame is not to kill the project,” said Mr. Mara of the Giants. “It’s to protect our core business.”

Triple Five contends that highway improvements and mass transit connections surrounding the stadium and the adjacent mall, racetrack and arena will make the impact negligible.

Hamilton Jul 1, 2013 3:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Nexis4Jersey (Post 6154653)
He did restore what he cut , so it is NJT incompetence....which goes back 15 years...the whole top level sections of NJT need to be fired... Same with the LIRR and MTA a house cleaning is needed....


That's just not true...he's still playing shenanigans with the NJ Transit budget, and has funding on life support. He's burdening the agency with debt that won't have to be addressed until after his presidential run when he'll be long gone.

http://blog.tstc.org/2013/03/06/new-...al-fund-holes/

chris08876 Jul 9, 2013 3:38 PM

Wouldn't this mall or complex eclipse the Mall of America in terms of being the largest in the country?

NYguy Jan 21, 2014 4:56 PM

Anthony Quintano

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drumz0rz Jan 21, 2014 9:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Nexis4Jersey (Post 6038672)
The whole NJT system was originally supposed to be Electrified , but that was canceled due to costs. However they are ordering DMU's to replace the push-pulls. What would electrification really do for the line , shave off 10 mins? Its a very curvy line unlike the Main line or even Bergen County line....and you have to merge a few times very slowly.

Electrification would eliminate the diesel locomotives. That would cut fuel costs entirely (and be better for the environment), greatly reduce maintenance costs (multiple-unit electromotive cars rarely breakdown and have far less serviceable parts), and allow for longer trains with more passenger space (by replacing the locomotive with a passenger cab car).

Long term, electrification brings more reliable service at a lower operating cost (better efficiency overall) but of course requires a substantial initial capital investment. Budget strapped agencies looking to cut their immediate bottom line often fail to realize long term gains and often opt for short term cost reduction (investing in more dual-mode locomotives instead, which are notorious for requiring more frequent service).

CalibratedZeus Apr 28, 2014 9:35 PM

Some good news finally here, a new labor agreement was signed today, the lawsuits have all been dropped, and looks like this will finally be finished (they say by 2016).

http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf...m_project.html

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americandream by calibratedzeus, on Flickr

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It has been more than a decade in the making, taken hundreds of millions of dollars in state-issued incentives and endured a two-year-long court battle, but officials said yesterday that completion of a long-stalled retail and entertainment complex in the Meadowlands was headed to the final stretch.

"One of the first projects is going to be getting that ugly outside of the building the hell off of this building," Christie told an audience of about 200 union workers.

chris08876 Apr 29, 2014 12:35 PM

I believe this is suppose to be the largest mall in the U.S.. once finished. I do know that Miami is expanding one of its malls so that it would become the 2nd largest in the nation, right near the Mall of America, but Xanadu is suppose to eclipse the Mall of America in terms of square footage.

chris08876 Apr 30, 2014 4:21 AM

Next step for American Dream mall: exterior makeover

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As the American Dream mall in East Rutherford finally appears headed for completion, Governor Chris Christie and developer Triple Five said the next order of business will be to strip the structure of its orange and blue exterior and give it a new facade.

According to a report by the Star-Ledger, Edmonton-based Triple Five plans to begin that process, “over the next few weeks,” and expects to open by fall 2016. Instead of the current colored walls, Triple Five said the new exterior will have, “A lot of glass, really clean and exquisite,” the report said.
The Bergen Record added that this may not be the end of development at the site. Jim Kirkos, the president of the Meadowlands Regional Chamber of Commerce, was quoted by the Record saying that he expects more building there, such as a, “convention center or other venue.”
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Apr 29, 2014
http://www.bizjournals.com/newyork/n...-exterior.html

Rail>Auto Apr 30, 2014 6:21 AM

How is the IZOD Center holding up around the complex with both the mall being down and the Prudential Center being open? I hope it survives.

chris08876 May 1, 2014 5:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Rail>Auto (Post 6558561)
How is the IZOD Center holding up around the complex with both the mall being down and the Prudential Center being open? I hope it survives.

Its doing pretty well. Events occur at it all the time from basketball games to wrestling. I believe WWE is coming sometime this May aswell. Its a older sports complex, but I'm sure it will still stay in business. It might take a loss though when this is built, but there will always be sport events available that will keep it running as well as concerts.

chris08876 Jul 10, 2014 6:52 PM

New Jersey Mega-Mall Could be Chris Christie's Next Bridgegate

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Since news broke this month that Dubai is hellbent on building the biggest mall our planet has ever known, now's a good time to check in on the progress at America's own fabulously crazy mall development, New Jersey's American Dream Meadowlands. The $1.8 billion project, formerly named Meadowlands Xanadu, is slated to open in the fall of 2016, and proposed entertainment options include a ski slope, skydiving wind tunnels, an enormous ferris wheel, and the world's largest wave pool. USA, USA!

So what's going on with the construction at the American Dream site? In June, NorthJersey.com checked in and found no signs of construction activity. "Just because people aren't seeing activity doesn't mean there isn't activity," the site quotes New Jersey Sports and Exposition Authority president Wayne Hasenbalg as saying. Developers and state officials say that the project remains on schedule and actual work on the mega-complex will be apparent soon.

Meanwhile, Chris Christie is under fire for his role in the project, thanks to a two-part investigative report by The Nation. The article alleges that the political dealing behind American Dream Meadowlands "could be the latest, and biggest, conflict-of-interest scandal in the tangle of scandals plaguing the New Jersey governor." The Nation reports that Christie's administration and Christie-connected New Jersey law firm Wolff & Samson pushed for the development at every opportunity, and that the funding for the American Dream Meadowland is an "incredibly convoluted and risky set of arrangements" including as much as $500 million in bonds issued by the town of East Rutherford, New Jersey. The mall's financing is causing pundits and taxpayers to wonder what will happen for the county, town and state if the project goes bust.
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July 9, 2014
http://racked.com/archives/2014/07/0...nstruction.php

eleven=11 May 17, 2015 11:35 PM

so is any renovation going on??

shadowbat2 Jun 19, 2015 4:32 AM

Financing for American Dream Meadowlands gets state OK; project to open in 2017

http://www.nj.com/bergen/index.ssf/2...eam_bonds.html

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Construction cranes stand near American Dream Meadowlands in East Rutherford in the May 2015 photo. The borough's plan to issue up to $675 million in bonds to help finance the stalled megamall project went before a state finance board on Wednesday.

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Part of the financing for an unfinished megamall in East Rutherford took another step forward on Wednesday, as a state finance board approved the borough's plan to sell up to $675 million in bonds for American Dream Meadowlands.

An official with the developer of the project, meanwhile, said the entire complex is expected to open in the summer of 2017.

The project formerly known as Xanadu first broke ground more than a decade ago but construction was never completed. Triple Five, the company that took control of the project in 2010, plans to invest $2.5 billion into the site, about $800 million of which will be raised through bond issuances.

....Construction crews on site have been focusing on the foundation for the indoor amusement park and water park, Armlin said.

"Construction is going very well and we're very pleased with the productivity on site and hope to continue to increase the level of production," he said. "Shortly you'll see not only hundreds of people on the site but thousands as we get the rest of the building shell up in the fall."

Armlin said the entire project is expected to open in the summer of 2017

shadowbat2 Jun 19, 2015 4:53 AM

Repainting of the facade to something....less ugly:D
http://media.nj.com/bergen_impact/ph...2747-large.jpg
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shadowbat2 Jun 19, 2015 5:25 AM

Old article, but mentions the stores that have committed so far....

Retail giants lining up, American Dream says
December 7, 2014

http://www.northjersey.com/news/reta...48277?page=all

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The developer, Triple Five, circulated a promotional brochure with renderings showcasing many high-end retailers.

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FAO Schwarz will leave its iconic Manhattan location for the Meadowlands, Saks Fifth Avenue and Lord & Taylor department stores will anchor a collection of luxury boutiques, and Cirque du Soleil will establish a permanent theater for Las Vegas-style shows at the American Dream project, according to information the developer of the long-delayed project is circulating as it holds meetings this week to woo retail tenants.

Triple Five, the developer of the project, is telling prospective tenants that more than 50 major retailers, including such mall mainstays as Victoria’s Secret and Gap, have committed to renting space at American Dream, which is scheduled to open in the fall of 2016. More than a dozen restaurants and a permanent Cirque du Soleil theater are also committed, according to a 67-page leasing brochure and the project’s monthly status update for November.

While a developer’s promotional materials about prospective tenants should be viewed skeptically until the project’s opening day, the list of tenants Triple Five has lined up shows that parts of the American Dream will compete directly with North Jersey’s existing malls for tenants.

American Dream, with its planned indoor water and amusement parks, aquarium and other entertainment components, will be unlike any other North Jersey mall, but it is looking to fill its retail wings with many of the retailers that already have stores at North Jersey shopping centers. The project could succeed in luring retailers entering the market for the first time away from Westfield Garden State Plaza and other Paramus malls.

The leasing brochure, which includes several dozen multicolored renderings of the interior and exterior portions of the project, shows Triple Five is moving forward to court tenants even though the financing for the project still relies on public bond offerings that have not been finalized. American Dream’s financing is being backed in part by state tax breaks and municipal bonds.

Triple Five, like all developers of shopping malls, must walk a tightrope: It does not want to announce deals until they are signed, but needs to spread the word about big-name tenants to persuade other retailers to get on board.

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.... The project status update says that Saks Fifth Avenue plans to open a 140,000-square-foot store at American Dream and that Lord & Taylor will open a 110,000-square-foot store. Drawings for the project show those department stores flanking a hotel.

The document also says FAO Schwarz will relocate its flagship New York store from Fifth Avenue to the new Meadowlands project, and that the American Dream FAO store will be the only FAO location in the world.

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.... Saks and Lord & Taylor are described as being part of a luxury wing that would be called “The Collections at American Dream.” The luxury wing would have valet parking, overseas shipping for international customers, a concierge desk, and package storage and delivery for “hands-free shopping.” Those are similar to customer service amenities that other North Jersey malls have implemented recently.

The mall, in its leasing brochure, also says it will have a particular focus on attracting Chinese tourists.

According to the Triple Five promotional materials, the developer is in active negotiations with five department store outlet brands — Bloomingdale’s Outlet, Lord & Taylor Outlet, Nordstrom Rack, Saks Off Fifth, and Century 21* — for space in the project.

Triple Five’s project status update also says it has “active sit-down restaurant deals” with several classic New York restaurants, including the Carnegie Deli and El Vez, part of the Stephen Starr Restaurant Group, the upscale Bice Ristorante, as well as a deal with the upscale Manhattan steakhouse chain STK.

This isn’t the first time in the long history of the Meadowlands shopping and entertainment project that names of high-profile retail tenants have surfaced. The original developer, Mills Corp., was issuing press releases about signed tenants as it was running out of money to complete the project.

The project has been in the works for more than a dozen years. After years of considering proposals for the Meadowlands site, the Meadowlands sports authority selected Mills Corp. as the developer in 2003. Work began on the complex in 2005, but hit a snag when Mills bailed out and was replaced by Colony Capital. In 2010 the chief lenders on the project ousted Colony as the developer and Triple Five was chosen as the new developer in May 2011.
*for those outside the NYC area, Century 21 is department store chain based in lower Manhattan (across from the WTC) that is known for it's off-price designer brands and huge crowds.:yes: They have a collection of stores in NYC, North Jersey, and Long Island, have recently opened a store in Center City Philadelphia, and have a store planned for Florida

shadowbat2 Jun 19, 2015 5:27 AM

Bloomingdale's concept store from the architect's site:
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http://kkarchitect.com/images/projec...3_20131107.jpg

http://kkarchitect.com/images/projec...ection_ppl.jpg

Nexis4Jersey Jul 12, 2015 3:39 AM

from yesterday

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/543/1...f071177f_b.jpg
American Dream Cranes in the Meadowlands
by Corey Best, on Flickr

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/319/1...cc2d2892_b.jpg
American Dream Cranes in the Meadowlands
by Corey Best, on Flickr

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/302/1...f75af98f_b.jpg
American Dream Cranes in the Meadowlands
by Corey Best, on Flickr

SJPhillyBoy Jul 12, 2015 2:46 PM

That is allot of cranes!

eleven=11 Aug 6, 2015 2:32 AM

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That is allot of cranes!

why so many cranes??


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