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CaliNative Dec 9, 2020 7:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Beaudry (Post 9128641)
It's funny, I just did a post where I referenced being on an eBay spending diet, but I intend to "go big" on this one, because man do I want that sucker. Such an interesting point in time, after they tore down the Fremont for the Fourth St Cut in 1954, but before they tore down the rest of the wall (here I am going on about like a crazy person 'bout that wall).

What really gets me is that it shows the pedestrian bridges between the two telephone buildings. The Pacific Telephone and Telegraph offices at left (Bliss & Faville, 1924) was joined to the new Southern California Telephone HQ (Charles Day Woodford) when it was finished in 1947. We've seen the shot by the great Palmer Conner here on NLA before I'm sure:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...0442f843_b.jpgHuntington Library

When did the microwave towers get added to the telephone building on the right? I seem to remember them being there by the late1960s, or even before. Plus weren't additional floors added to the building? As the giant gasometers went away, the microwave towers went up. Hmmm.

Beaudry Dec 9, 2020 7:45 AM

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Originally Posted by CaliNative (Post 9128751)
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...0442f843_b.jpg
When did the microwave towers get added to the telephone building on the right? I seem to remember them being there by the late1960s, or even before. Plus weren't additional floors added to the building? As the giant gasometers went away, the microwave towers went up. Hmmm

Actually there was never a microwave tower on that building; that's 434 S Grand and it's always just looked like that. However, just next door to its north at 420 they built another telephone building, designed by Woodford & Bernard and built in 1962. THAT one had the 185', 250-ton tower:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...bae9dbf5_b.jpglapl

However, that tower didn't last too long. In 1966 the tower was removed/demolished, and seven stories added to the structure, and then the tower was rebuilt in a slightly different configuration:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...34869807_b.jpghuntington, huntington

Martin Pal Dec 9, 2020 6:09 PM

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Originally Posted by HossC (Post 9128465)
The building in the background is the Hall of Records, and he parks outside the Broadway entrance to the Hall of Justice (you can see the name over the door as he goes in).


Thanks, HossC...so that's the Broadway entrance...it was confusing me somewhat!

HossC Dec 9, 2020 7:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 9129067)

Thanks, HossC...so that's the Broadway entrance...it was confusing me somewhat!

Here's a comparison that I didn't have time to post yesterday. It looks like they've added steps and bollards since the '60s.

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds
CBS/GSV

Martin Pal Dec 9, 2020 7:56 PM

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I wasn't really aware of this, but apparently after the Northridge Quake in 1994, the building was shut down for almost two decades, was considered for demolition, but underwent a $234 million overhaul starting in 2012, including extensive seismic retrofitting, and reopened in Oct. 2014.

https://i2.wp.com/brighamyen.com/wp-...9/DSC06808.jpgBrighamYen


https://i1.wp.com/brighamyen.com/wp-...9/DSC06800.jpgBrighamYen

https://i0.wp.com/brighamyen.com/wp-...pg?w=497&ssl=1BrighamYen

Looking at GSVs, the bollards were put in sometime between 2015 and 2016.

BillinGlendaleCA Dec 10, 2020 1:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 9129210)
:previous:

I wasn't really aware of this, but apparently after the Northridge Quake in 1994, the building was shut down for almost two decades, was considered for demolition, but underwent a $234 million overhaul starting in 2012, including extensive seismic retrofitting, and reopened in Oct. 2014.


Looking at GSVs, the bollards were put in sometime between 2015 and 2016.

They also cleaned the exterior, it looks quite striking in pics from Griffith Park.

ethereal_reality Dec 10, 2020 2:13 AM

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Here's another of the slides from the group that I mentioned a couple of days ago. (I previously posted three of the slides) I'm glad one of them found a home with Beaudry. :)



As you can see this one was taken on Hollywood Blvd. just east of Argyle. -looking west.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/oqeknK.jpg
eBay

The two films playing at the Pantages are. . .

Tip on a Dead Jockey (1957)

House of Numbers (1957)



And there's a bit of jabberwocky fun going on with the two signs.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/3...924/X8aQcR.jpg



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ethereal_reality Dec 10, 2020 2:59 AM

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mystery street, Los Angeles 1970 ....eBay

hmm. .perhaps the owners of the two nifty cars work in the building on the left.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/q4lyWJ.jpg
eBay

At first glance there doesn't appear to be any good clues (besides the name on the bldg at left.)

. . . .that is, unless you take a look farther down the street. (see below)


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/e0XuSL.jpg
detail

As you can see the street appears to dead end at a rather interesting looking building with a wall and arch. (& possibly a tall tower on the left)

. . .of course an even better clue is the homemade 2412 sign with the arrow.

There's also a street sign peaking out from behind a pole. The first two letters appear to be A and y(?) I think.






Last but not least, here is a closer look at the name on the building that I mentioned earlier.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/qxTwQ3.jpg
detail

I've often wondered if there's an app that will stretch out the letters to make the sign more legible. (just askin')




Good luck minions! :superwhip
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odinthor Dec 10, 2020 3:28 AM

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e_r. I believe we're at the corner of Pico and Federal Avenue, looking south. Next street down is Ayres Avenue.

https://i.postimg.cc/T2CPG4dX/AyresAv.jpg
gsv

The structure in the foreground appears to be a survivor . . .

CaliNative Dec 10, 2020 5:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaudry (Post 9128641)
It's funny, I just did a post where I referenced being on an eBay spending diet, but I intend to "go big" on this one, because man do I want that sucker. Such an interesting point in time, after they tore down the Fremont for the Fourth St Cut in 1954, but before they tore down the rest of the wall (here I am going on about like a crazy person 'bout that wall).

What really gets me is that it shows the pedestrian bridges between the two telephone buildings. The Pacific Telephone and Telegraph offices at left (Bliss & Faville, 1924) was joined to the new Southern California Telephone HQ (Charles Day Woodford) when it was finished in 1947. We've seen the shot by the great Palmer Conner here on NLA before I'm sure:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...0442f843_b.jpgHuntington Library

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaudry (Post 9128753)
Actually there was never a microwave tower on that building; that's 434 S Grand and it's always just looked like that. However, just next door to its north at 420 they built another telephone building, designed by Woodford & Bernard and built in 1962. THAT one had the 185', 250-ton tower:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...bae9dbf5_b.jpglapl

However, that tower didn't last too long. In 1966 the tower was removed/demolished, and seven stories added to the structure, and then the tower was rebuilt in a slightly different configuration:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...34869807_b.jpghuntington, huntington

^^^
Thanks for the microwave tower history. In the 1980s I once overheard some homeless guy in Pershing Square mutter that the microwaves were used for thought control. I nodded as I quickly passed him on the way to an important meeting on metrorail construction in the Biltmore.

CaliNative Dec 10, 2020 6:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9129511)
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Here's another of the slides from the group that I mentioned a couple of days ago. (I previously posted three of the slides) I'm glad one of them found a home with Beaudry. :)



As you can see this one was taken on Hollywood Blvd. just east of Argyle. -looking west.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/oqeknK.jpg
eBay

It looks like there are two betting films showing at the Pantages.

Tip on a Dead Jockey (1957)

House of Numbers (1957)



And there's a bit of jabberwocky fun going on with the two signs.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/3...924/X8aQcR.jpg



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^^^
I also see an early VW "beetle" (black) on the left with the small oval rear window. Before 1960 VWs were quite rare in the U.S. Then the brilliant ad campaign started that made them cool. Soon they were everywhere. The Hitler connection was forgotten. Similarly, in the 1970s Japanese cars became common. Our old foes won the car wars. I bought a VW in 1968 and a Toyota Corolla in 1974, followed by a Honda Accord in 1979. Before that my parents and family members were mostly Chevy folks, with a few Ford people and one Chrysler oddball. But Dinah Shore singing "See the USA in Your Chevrolet" persists like some ancient ear worm of a distant time long departed. It is hard to forget those old jingles from youth. The "Bonanza" theme music plays in my head sometimes. At other times "77 Sunset Strip" and the "Ballad of Jedd Clampett" from the Beverly Hillbillies.

The early 1960s and before seem as ancient as the time of the dinosaurs. To quote Jimmie Durante, "Good night Mrs. Calabash wherever you are". Goodbye deep past. We will remember you but you are gone forever....except on Noirish Los Angeles. The deep past lives here forever. Thank you ethereal reality for starting this blog, and thanks to all the contributers!

ethereal_reality Dec 10, 2020 8:13 AM

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mystery street FOUND!

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/q4lyWJ.jpg
ebay

Quote:

Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 9129570)
:previous:

e_r. I believe we're at the corner of Pico and Federal Avenue, looking south. Next street down is Ayres Avenue.

https://i.postimg.cc/T2CPG4dX/AyresAv.jpg
gsv

The structure in the foreground appears to be a survivor . . .

Thanks odinthor, I appreciate your help. :)

And look what I just found on eBay.

If it weren't for the two cars I wouldn't have recognized that this is the same street looking in the opposite direction.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/wJjYX4.jpg
eBay





Let's take a closer look.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/JIyCE7.jpg
eBay






Here's the same view in 2011.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/Zoyj1P.jpg
GSV




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HossC Dec 10, 2020 8:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 9129570)

e_r. I believe we're at the corner of Pico and Federal Avenue, looking south. Next street down is Ayres Avenue.

https://i.postimg.cc/T2CPG4dX/AyresAv.jpg
gsv

The structure in the foreground appears to be a survivor . . .

The building was there until a couple of years ago, but the latest GSV image shows hoardings around an empty site. Here's the 21-unit apartment block being built there now:

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds
urbanize.city

odinthor Dec 10, 2020 9:25 PM

:previous:

Thanks Hoss. Finally a tear-down and replace I'm happy to sign on to! The structure actually is pretty handsome in its way (though that pink-flowering tree, which is probably based on a photo of a Flowering Peach variety, well, no way is it going to grow that big in some tub or container like that).

I quite like the fact that they evidently plan to dip passers-by in quicklime, no doubt as a health precaution.

ethereal_reality Dec 10, 2020 10:32 PM

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Pensick & Gordon Toy Warehouse, 1946.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/bteDgL.jpg
eBay

845 S. Los Angeles Street

I thought I recognized this building as a building in the Arts District. . .




. .but 845 S. Los Angeles St. is located in the 'Lady Liberty' Bldg. LINK...... (as you can see, it isn't on a corner as shown in the ad)


So where is the building in the ad? :shrug:

(At the moment I don't remember the street address of the building I think it might be.


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HossC Dec 10, 2020 10:56 PM

:previous:

The CDs around that time all list 845 S Los Angeles Street as the address of Pensick & Gordon (earlier ones give their address as 356 S Los Angeles). Despite this, the building in the picture is at S Santa Fe and E 3rd.

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds
GSV

ethereal_reality Dec 10, 2020 11:08 PM

:previous: That's it!

Thanks Hoss. :)

ethereal_reality Dec 10, 2020 11:26 PM

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I just found this 1970s view of Pensick & Gordon on flickr


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/cTOgwu.jpg
flickr

"At this time all boarded up and abandoned. Today, it has been converted into lofts as part of the clean up of Downtown.
On the corner of 3rd and Santa Fe Ave. The structure was built in 1907 and was originally a wholesale grocers."
. ...emd



"My dad worked there for years from 1956 til he retired in 1975 He was a truck driver and warehouseman.
They had the best company picnics at Elysian Park. Free toys for all the kids."
......perezcathy



Free toys for the kids at the company picnic! That is so cool. :)




I know we have seen this building on NLA but a search for 'Pensick' resulted in no hits.

odinthor Dec 11, 2020 12:36 AM

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The original builder would be the wholesale grocer R.L. Craig & Co.

https://i.postimg.cc/KvfrkswN/RLCraig-LAT-07-6-2.jpg
LA Times of 6/2/1907, via ProQuest via CSULB Library

(The illustration referred to in the article is too murky to be of any benefit.)

ScottyB Dec 11, 2020 7:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 9130274)
:previous:

Thanks Hoss. Finally a tear-down and replace I'm happy to sign on to! The structure actually is pretty handsome in its way (though that pink-flowering tree, which is probably based on a photo of a Flowering Peach variety, well, no way is it going to grow that big in some tub or container like that).

I quite like the fact that they evidently plan to dip passers-by in quicklime, no doubt as a health precaution.


:haha::haha:


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