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sopas ej Nov 23, 2009 7:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 4571661)

Hehe for some reason I imagine "The Music Man" here and singing the praises of a monorail which everyone falls for but they're duped into a big fraud project that would never fly. :)

sopas ej Nov 23, 2009 7:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Los Angeles Past (Post 4573423)
Wow. Nice!!! The sign could be as much as 70+ years old, though it's more likely from sometime in the 1940s. That's still pretty darned old!

http://www.caltrafficsigns.com/history.php

I'm really surprised to see this sign is still in use. Someone in the road department in South Pasadena is probably sentimental about it and that's why it's still up there!

On my recent trip to L.A., I saw one overpass sign on the Pasadena Freeway that was still one of the So. Cal. Auto Club porcelain steel signs. I would bet there are less than 100 of those type signs still in use in the southland today. I'd even go so far as to say less than 50...

Thanks for the link, LA Past. I figured that the sign must be at least from the 1940s. When I first moved to South Pasadena I noticed a sign near the San Marino border, I think it was a "SOUTH PASADENA CITY LIMIT" sign, black lettering on a white background, with the So. California Auto Club logo on it. Some years later it was replaced with a modern sign. I thought it was a shame, I regretted not having taken a picture of it.

sopas ej Nov 23, 2009 8:03 AM

Regarding the pronunciation of "Los Angeles," it seemed that there were generations of British people who would say "Los ANN-juh-leez." In the 1990s I worked with a guy from Hong Kong who spoke English with a British accent and he also would say "Los ANN-juh-leez."

ethereal_reality Nov 24, 2009 12:02 AM

Union Stage Depot located at 5th Street & Los Angeles Street in 1932.


http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/5...agedepot5t.jpg
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I'm not familiar with this depot....anyone know the details?
What is a 'stage' depot?

ethereal_reality Nov 24, 2009 12:36 AM

The Santa Fe Station, Los Angeles.


http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/7...depotlosan.jpg
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I LOVE the dog on the horse's back.

ethereal_reality Nov 24, 2009 12:43 AM

Another fine photograph of the Santa Fe Station in Los Angeles.


http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/3...aferrhuuge.jpg
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ethereal_reality Nov 24, 2009 12:55 AM

The Southern Pacific Station on Central Ave. between 5th and 7th Street.


http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/6...ernpacific.jpg
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http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/5...npacificde.jpg
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ethereal_reality Nov 24, 2009 1:01 AM

The Santa Monica Depot in 1888.


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...537/zKeFA9.jpg
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Below: Santa Monica Depot in 1895.


http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/7...lesindepen.jpg
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sopas ej Nov 24, 2009 2:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 4574473)
Union Stage Depot located at 5th Street & Los Angeles Street in 1932.


http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/5...agedepot5t.jpg
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I'm not familiar with this depot....anyone know the details?
What is a 'stage' depot?

I did a quick search and it turns out that this was a bus depot for Original Stage Lines, Mt. Wilson Stages and Inland Stages. I assume those were bus companies. Interesting pics, btw! That Santa Fe La Grand station looked really monumental; that was the train station that some Olympic athletes arrived at from across country during the 1932 Summer Olympics, according to the LAPL's pics I posted in that 1932 Olympics thread.

sopas ej Nov 25, 2009 6:12 AM

Looking north on Spring from 2nd, 1939
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/5...erofhillan.jpg
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Northwest corner of Hill and 7th, 1939
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/5...erofhillan.jpg
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Of COURSE it's 1939; "Dark Victory" is playing!

ethereal_reality Nov 25, 2009 4:13 PM

^^^Two VERY beautiful photographs sopas_ej.

Also thanks for the information regarding the Union Stage Depot.
I guess if I had thought about a bit more, I might have correlated
stages with buses. Also in the photograph (of the Union Stage Depot)
you can see where the buses entered on the far right in the photo.

Los Angeles Past Nov 26, 2009 5:56 AM

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Originally Posted by sopas ej (Post 4576944)

Northwest corner of Hill and 7th, 1939
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/5...erofhillan.jpg
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Of COURSE it's 1939; "Dark Victory" is playing!


Here's another that must have been taken near in time to the one above (note the "Dark Victory" ad facing the parking lot). It's the 900 block of South Broadway...

https://otters.net/img/lanoir/DW-B5-50A-2-ISLA.jpg


My mom had her picture taken by a street photographer near here in 1936.

ethereal_reality Nov 27, 2009 11:23 PM

^^^That's a great shot....love all the signs.

Johnny Socko Nov 28, 2009 2:18 AM

Thanks to Los Angeles Past for referring me to this thread. I read the whole thing during my free time over two days this week, and I saw so many cool things that relate to me in some way.

Last month, someone posted conceptual images of a proposed Music Center located at 6th & Hoover. Interesting, because that development would've wiped-out the building I live in (as well as my entire block)! If you look at the concept art you will see two unidentified streets: The one that forks off of Hoover is Occidental Blvd, and the parallel street to the east is Lafayette Park Place. The music center would've gone in the land between those two streets.

I believe the proposal was dated 1950, and my building was constructed in 1953, so obviously my building's developers were not worried about potential eminent domain by then.

I suspect that my building was part of a "second generation" of buildings on my street, replacing a single-family residence. The hi-rise apartment buildings in the area are third-generation, replacing the small multi-family buildings like mine. As of now, there is one single-family building remaining on my block, and as always seems to be the case in Los Angeles, it is maintained but not continuously lived in. I call such houses "Scientology safehouses", but I have no idea what they are actually used for. :P

Occidental Blvd is a divided street with tall palm trees planted in the median. They look almost as tall as the "Longstreet palms" discovered by Los Angeles Past, so I'd estimate their age to be 80-90 years, which just about jibes with the age of this neighborhood.

OK, I've rambled on about this long enough. Someone else's turn!


I'll try to paste the 1950 Music Center concept art below:

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/647...dmusiccent.jpg

Los Angeles Past Nov 29, 2009 5:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Socko (Post 4581049)
Thanks to Los Angeles Past for referring me to this thread. I read the whole thing during my free time over two days this week, and I saw so many cool things that relate to me in some way.

Last month, someone posted conceptual images of a proposed Music Center located at 6th & Hoover. Interesting, because that development would've wiped-out the building I live in (as well as my entire block)! If you look at the concept art you will see two unidentified streets: The one that forks off of Hoover is Occidental Blvd, and the parallel street to the east is Lafayette Park Place. The music center would've gone in the land between those two streets.

I believe the proposal was dated 1950, and my building was constructed in 1953, so obviously my building's developers were not worried about potential eminent domain by then.

I suspect that my building was part of a "second generation" of buildings on my street, replacing a single-family residence. The hi-rise apartment buildings in the area are third-generation, replacing the small multi-family buildings like mine. As of now, there is one single-family building remaining on my block, and as always seems to be the case in Los Angeles, it is maintained but not continuously lived in. I call such houses "Scientology safehouses", but I have no idea what they are actually used for. :P

Occidental Blvd is a divided street with tall palm trees planted in the median. They look almost as tall as the "Longstreet palms" discovered by Los Angeles Past, so I'd estimate their age to be 80-90 years, which just about jibes with the age of this neighborhood.

OK, I've rambled on about this long enough. Someone else's turn!


I'll try to paste the 1950 Music Center concept art below:

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/647...dmusiccent.jpg

Nice contribution Johnny! Glad my blog got you over here. Also glad that proposed Music Center didn't gobble up your neighborhood. Enough of the old city has been done away with already, IMHO...

-Scott

ethereal_reality Nov 29, 2009 5:37 PM

Welcome to the site Johnny Socko!
Your post had a lot of interesting details. :)

ethereal_reality Nov 29, 2009 8:25 PM

Below: The Ambassador Hotel in 1929.

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/8...ssador1929.jpg
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Below: A 1957 proposal for the site.


http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/4...amb1phase1.jpg

ethereal_reality Nov 29, 2009 8:27 PM

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/374...phasei1957.jpg

ethereal_reality Nov 29, 2009 8:41 PM

I just found phase II and III as well.


http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/874...assadorpha.jpg




http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/857...aseiii1957.jpg


Looks like the original Ambassador Hotel is lost between Phase II and III.
Developers never know when to stop.

(of course we still lost the Ambassador many decades later)

ethereal_reality Nov 29, 2009 8:45 PM

One last illustration from this series.


http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/630...dorcenter1.jpg


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