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ethereal_reality Sep 27, 2011 8:44 PM

I just found this image as well. It's a good view of the crown of the Bankers Building (mid-block).


http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/6...ngmidblock.jpg
usc digital archive


Jon Paul, I am glad you brought this building to our attention.

Fab Fifties Fan Sep 27, 2011 10:16 PM

You are quite welcome e_r. I have to admit that I have become fascinated by this buidling, especially after seeing the color photo and finding out that it is clad in turquoise green glazed terra cotta tile.

I immediately thought of the Eastern Columbia Building, that I love so much, and lo and behold, they were both designed by Claud Beelman in 1930. The cladding tile for both buildings was purchased from the same supplier.

Beelman was a very prolific architect in the Los Angeles area and some of his other works are the Garfield Buidling and Hollywood Post Office.

Here are three more current shots of the Bankers Bldg:

Google Streetview looking up (that parking garage they erected next door is horrendous)
http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/9892/629shill1.jpg

Google Streetview of the side
http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/5729/629shill2.jpg

Detail from Banker's Building flickr album
http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/223/629shill3.jpg

I am traveling back up to LA in a couple of weeks and am planning on taking a walking tour around downtown. Also, I am promising myself that I will look up so that I don't miss seeing what is above the street level commercial sameness.

That in itself will be a challenge in that being pretty tall I tend to either smash in to or walk over the top of people if I'm not looking down.:D

~Jon Paul

strangedays Sep 27, 2011 11:09 PM

Great, great thread. I feel obligated to contribute.

Looking at Baldwin Hills South/West, 1940-49, at what would become Baldwin Hills Park now. The road wrapping around on the right is probably Jefferson, which changed names into Higuera St., which probably intersects at bottom center (off screen) with Moynier Lane. The small road just after Jefferson/Higuera that dead ends into the hills could be Lewawee (based on a 1941 map). (USC Digital Collection)

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6020/...0139f14d_b.jpg

A shot from the Baldwin Hills north-north/east at the Village Green about 1943. The intersection where the bus is about to turn is Coliseum and Hauser Blvd. You can see the entire video at villagegreenla.net/history.html

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6168/...5c6a0581_b.jpg

Coliseum and Hauser today at center left. Hauser Blvd still dead ends there. The Baldwin Hills Village is now the Village Green. You can see see downtown LA in the tiptop right.

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6132/...5902691d_b.jpg

GaylordWilshire Sep 27, 2011 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fab Fifties Fan (Post 5425452)
Beelman was a very prolific architect in the Los Angeles area and some of his other works are the Pacific Electric Building, Garfield Buidling and Hollywood Post Office.

Detail from Banker's Building flickr album
http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/223/629shill3.jpg

This is a great shot, worth repeating-- while I think Beelman did another ceramic-clad building downtown called the Pacific Somethingorother Building (maybe even a few others), which I think is gone, it was Thornton Fitzhugh who designed the PE Building at 6th & Main.

GaylordWilshire Sep 27, 2011 11:38 PM

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-eGzZ8PN1Pj.../s640/gray.jpgSteven Keylon

Speaking of the Village Green, here is a brilliant blog about it:

http://baldwinhillsvillageandthevill....blogspot.com/

Fab Fifties Fan Sep 28, 2011 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5425534)
This is a great shot, worth repeating-- while I think Beelman did another ceramic-clad building downtown called the Pacific Somethingorother Building (maybe even a few others), which I think is gone, it was Thornton Fitzhugh who designed the PE Building at 6th & Main.

Thanks for the clarification GaylordWilshire! I will send it on to wikipedia who has it listed as one of Beelman's accomplishments on his page even though the PE Building's wiki page has it correctly as Fitzhugh.

Sheesh

~Jon Paul

strangedays Sep 28, 2011 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5425541)

Thanks for the blog link, GaylordWilshire. Insightful indeed. I'd read the dam break story, which is very good, but not much else. The construction details proved to be fascinating and he expands on clips from the film.

Evidently, per the blog, Rodeo Road and Coliseum already existed. Does anyone know if they did and if so, when were they graded/paved? Were they around in 1925? The old maps I have are LA city, not county.

GaylordWilshire Sep 28, 2011 8:35 AM

Well, why not?
 
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-A...2520AM.bmp.jpgLos Angeles Times


http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-EbmfZnf8hj...leryofglab.jpgLAPL


And, in Baby Jane maquillage, at the Hall of Justice...
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-N-kEXbMRSt...g/glab1958.jpgLAPL
"Always smartly dressed whenever hauled into
court, Hazel Glab, now calling herself Hazel
Bridge, appears on a pandering charge in 1958"



Read all about her--including her seduction of the poor old widower, oilman Albert Llewellyn Cheney--in this post about his house at #15 Berkeley Square: http://berkeleysquarelosangeles.blog...ney-house.html


It's part of my now-completed blog on the history of West Adams's Berkeley Square, lost in its entirety to progress in the early '60s: http://berkeleysquarelosangeles.blogspot.com/


http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-sxKVbahtK7...orderfinal.jpgHomes and Gardens of the Pacific Coast

srk1941 Sep 28, 2011 7:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strangedays (Post 5425625)
Thanks for the blog link, GaylordWilshire. Insightful indeed. I'd read the dam break story, which is very good, but not much else. The construction details proved to be fascinating and he expands on clips from the film.

Evidently, per the blog, Rodeo Road and Coliseum already existed. Does anyone know if they did and if so, when were they graded/paved? Were they around in 1925? The old maps I have are LA city, not county.

Hi, thanks, that's my blog... In March 1941, when Baldwin Hills Village began construction, Rodeo Road already existed. But Coliseum was built as part of the construction of Baldwin Hills Village.

I've always meant to go up the hill to take a picture from that spot today!

stoogeswoman Sep 28, 2011 8:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5174348)
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_z...80258%20AM.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tHIN...eature=related


A remnant in plain sight? "Mysterious stairs" behind McKenzie, Brackman, Chaney and Kuzak (ok, 444 S. Flower) in this youtube video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tHIN...eature=related


Are these stairs a remnant of old Bunker Hill? It looks it on film, but I can't really tell if the concrete is definitely older than the newer construction. Anyone have any ideas of where they may have once led? (Btw--there are no clues on the big 1931 map of downtown....)

Hi everyone, I just wanted to let you know that I just joined the Forum, and I'm the person who made the video Gaylord referenced in the post above, several months ago.

My name is Chrissy the Stooges Woman :-). I've worked in Downtown L.A. since the late 1980's and loooovvvee all the history. Worked on Bunker Hill for 20 years, and now am at (the building formerly known as) Arco Plaza.

I use a lot of these photos in my desktop backgrounds while at work, and would really appreciate it if anyone has any old Arco Plaza photos. I found one - just one! - where it's under construction, and that's great. But I'd also like to find photos from when what's now Parking Level C had shops, a Catholic church, Dutton's Bookstore, etc. - probably from the '70's thru '90's.

Thanks in advance and I look forward to being here a lot! :tup:

GaylordWilshire Sep 28, 2011 10:48 PM

"Los Angeles Street; Rainy Day"
 
1940s Los Angeles as 1870s Paris

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 4338146)
http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/9...aydowntown.jpg
USC archives

above: Downtown in the rain. 1940s



http://www.artic.edu/artaccess/AA_Im...lebotte_lg.jpgArt Institute of Chicago
Caillebotte's Paris Street: Rainy Day, 1877

Fab Fifties Fan Sep 28, 2011 11:47 PM

Oh that Hazel!!!
 
And, in Baby Jane maquillage, at the Hall of Justice...
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-N-kEXbMRSt...g/glab1958.jpgLAPL
"Always smartly dressed whenever hauled into
court, Hazel Glab, now calling herself Hazel
Bridge, appears on a pandering charge in 1958"


I actually became curious about the old girl a couple of months ago, when I read about her exploits on your fascinating blog GW, so I went digging for more detail.

I tell you that girl was noir in a can from birth in 1894 to her final curtain call in 1977! At the time she died at 83 her full name was:

Hazel Belford Vendiz Garland Glab Bridge Stoddard

Seems that both before and after the unfortunate Mr Glab there were two husbands. Fortunately, all four of them lived through the experience but that is probably only because none of them had much money, unlike Mr. Glab.

Having already been divorced twice, the 21 year old former vaudeville performer, hopped a train from Oklahoma to Hollywood in 1915.

She caught the eye of a casting agent and is credited as appearing in the 1916 movie The Deserter. She has no recorded credits after that but it was rumored that she did appear in two Ince films. After films it appears that she found prostitution and gold digging more profitable. And eventually murder, forgery and extortion as well.

Ingenue Hazel 1916
http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/6068/hazel1916.jpg

Hazel (center) and her "witnesses" during her divorce from terminally ill Mr. Bridge 1955. She won his house in the divorce and then turned it in to a good ol' fashioned brothel, hence the courthouse picture GaylordWilshire posted.

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/5851/hazel1955.jpg

Even after her madam days, our buddy Hazel didn't stay out of trouble for long periods. There were assorted shoplifting charges and the like for years and then in 1965 Hazel at age 71 got dragged into court for harrassing and threatening the life of her old Tehachapi State Prison cellmate, seen here confronting her outside of court.
http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/8586/hazel1965.jpg

I totally agree that someone has got to make a movie of her life! Can you just imagine all the noirish locations and such that everybody on this thread could suggest?

~Jon Paul (Juan Pablo sounds more noirish:P)

All photos LAPL

SierraMadre Sep 29, 2011 12:03 AM

I'm coming up with some hilarious suggestions for the cast of that movie

strangedays Sep 29, 2011 12:13 AM

Map
 
Gaylord, here is a clip from a 1939 updated to 1941 map you might find helpful.

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6009/...1103dac5_b.jpg

Edited to add that this map shows Jefferson as one continuous street around the Baldwin Hills.

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6173/...fd0bc8ee_b.jpg

strangedays Sep 29, 2011 2:09 AM

A pic
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by srk1941 (Post 5426471)
Hi, thanks, that's my blog... In March 1941, when Baldwin Hills Village began construction, Rodeo Road already existed. But Coliseum was built as part of the construction of Baldwin Hills Village.

I've always meant to go up the hill to take a picture from that spot today!

Thanks so much for answering the question. I have the map as posted that shows Rodeo Road joining with Jefferson on the east, but have two maps that do not show it and so wasn't sure. None showed Coliseum, so the question lingered for some time. Do you happen to know if Rodeo Road was paved in 1924-25?

I just uploaded a pic you can use for your blog if you want, or until you get up there yourself. It shows more of LA. The funny thing is, when filming that, I didn't know that was the Village Green :)

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6165/...8e2f3af3_b.jpg

I created my flickr.com page to contribute here.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/sleepynoir/

GaylordWilshire Sep 29, 2011 3:12 AM

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-E...5%252520PM.jpgLAPL

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fab Fifties Fan (Post 5426806)
I actually became curious about the old girl a couple of months ago, when I read about her exploits on your fascinating blog GW, so I went digging for more detail.

FFF: She was really something--I don't remember seeing the two lowest of the pics you posted when I was researching the Cheney house. Maybe they're new to the LAPL.

There was another post a few years ago about Hazel by sopas:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...5&postcount=74

It included this pic of the house where Mr. Glab died:

http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics29/00049444.jpg


I thought I--or someone--had posted a current shot of 12744 Ventura Boulevard--couldn't find that post, but yes, it still stands:

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-s...2520PM.bmp.jpg


PS Great maps, strange

all of the trash Sep 29, 2011 3:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strangedays (Post 5425506)

wow look at all that space! We all look back with shame over the foundation of L.A's sprawl, but if you were around at the time how could you not want to fulfill the new suburban dream? All that open space and cheap land.

GaylordWilshire Sep 29, 2011 11:47 AM

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-5...Ty6A/cutts.jpgLAPL

gsjansen Sep 29, 2011 12:40 PM

an amazing view looking south west at the intersection of 1st and hill. the El Moro hotel is at the upper left. look at those hanging gardens! shades of babylon!

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00091/00091576.jpg
Source: LAPL

looking north easterly at a stunning residence which was located at 112-116 s. olive.

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00091/00091574.jpg
Source: LAPL


another image of the bunker hill hotel on hope street between 1st and 2nd. this is looking east from flower street.

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00091/00091568.jpg
Source: LAPL

and this is the view from the rowan apartment, (next door to the bunker hill hotel), looking west towards flower

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00091/00091566.jpg
Source: LAPL


looking west across broadway at the moore cliff hotel

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00091/00091577.jpg
Source: LAPL

GaylordWilshire Sep 29, 2011 2:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gsjansen (Post 5427366)


There's one of those infamous L.A. backyard incinerators--

http://www.vaughns-1-pagers.com/hist...ncinerator.jpg

The picture above is from a very interesting site of one L.A. family's history:
http://www.vaughns-1-pagers.com/hist...59-veteran.htm

A history of another of the family's house, in the same vein:
http://www.vaughns-1-pagers.com/hist...tm#yard-photos


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