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MichaelRyerson Feb 7, 2011 6:29 PM

Mount Lowe, then and now
 
Thought I'd try to contribute something to this great thread. Found these on Shorpy, one of my all-time favorite sites. The 'now' pic is by a Shorpy contributor (Dandy). Fifty years ago, my father and several of my uncles took some of us kids hiking up the Mount Lowe right-of-way (yes, I'm that old), the tracks and most of the trestles were long gone even then. I think you can still find evidence of both the Railway and the several resort buildings today.

First image from 1913...

http://www.shorpy.com/files/images/4a25762a.jpg

and now...

http://www.shorpy.com/images/photos/alpine.jpg

KevinW Feb 7, 2011 10:51 PM

This is why I'm interested in building a 3D model of L.A. just like L.A. Noire but put in a time slider that would show how it looked at any one time.

ethereal_reality Feb 7, 2011 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gsjansen (Post 5154784)
a friend of mine was just in los angeles, and he sent me some photos of his trip.

one of the images he had taken from the south side of union square at alameda and aliso street, i realized that i had seen this almost exact same angled image on this thread. i tracked it down on page 45. here is a then and now

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5255/...fabf832f_b.jpg

That is an amazing comparison you were able to do with your friend's photo.
The 'before' photo is one of my all time favorite photos on this thread.

But it's also a bit depressing. The 'before' photo is interesting on so many levels. The contemporary photo is bland and sterile. :(

ethereal_reality Feb 8, 2011 12:19 AM

Two vertiginous photos of Broadway taken from the United Artists Building in 1937.

http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/8...yfromunite.jpg
usc digital archive




http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/847...yfromunite.jpg
usc digital archive

Los Angeles Past Feb 8, 2011 1:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5155442)
Two vertiginous photos of Broadway taken from the United Artists Building in 1937.


:previous: Interesting! The vantage point for those photos was almost directly over the spot where my mother was standing when a street photographer took her picture in October, 1936. (And it's essentially the same time period, too!)

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/v...y102036_lj.jpg

-Scott

ethereal_reality Feb 8, 2011 1:48 AM

^^^ She looks like a wonderful woman Scott.

sopas ej Feb 8, 2011 2:25 AM

Great then and nows!

I thought I'd do some too.

E. Clem Wilson Building, 1930
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/272...onbuilding.jpg
USC Archive

E. Clem Wilson Building, Sunday, February 6, 2011
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/1930/p1150950.jpg
Photo by me

The ground floor looks butchered, and other details of the building have been lost. And of course the sign on top really ruins the building.


Miracle Mile, looking east on Wilshire from Hauser, circa early 1960s
http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/2...aclemileel.jpg
ellenbloom.blogspot.com

Same view, Sunday, February 6, 2011
http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/5891/p1150975.jpg
Photo by me

Lee Tower, circa 1961
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/5164/1961leetower.jpg
USC Archive

What was once the Lee Tower, Sunday, February 6. 2011
http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/3440/p1160011.jpg
Photo by me

The building is looking really ratty now; I think an extreme makeover or implosion is due. I think it was in the late 1990s that the original aqua-colored panels were painted black. A re-skinning might be nice.

gsjansen Feb 8, 2011 3:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sopas ej (Post 5155599)
What was once the Lee Tower, Sunday, February 6. 2011
http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/3440/p1160011.jpg
Photo by me

The building is looking really ratty now; I think an extreme makeover or implosion is due. I think it was in the late 1990s that the original aqua-colored panels were painted black. A re-skinning might be nice.

lee tower grand opening 1958

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4114/...4aea0de1_b.jpg
Source: Life

GaylordWilshire Feb 8, 2011 1:07 PM

"A Hidden Treasure Struggles in Los Angeles"
 
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics26/00032628.jpgWm Reagh/LAPL http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics26/00032628.jpg

http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics26/00032626.jpgWm Reagh/LAPL http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics26/00032626.jpg

http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics35/00037144.jpgLAPL http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics35/00037144.jpg
1959 stress test



Today in The New York Times:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/08/us...q=rodia&st=cse


Read about the famous 1959 stress test that saved the towers once before: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/cult...-survival.html

gsjansen Feb 8, 2011 1:36 PM

the hollywood walk of fame is 51 today:thankyouthankyou:


Formally breaking ground for the Walk of Fame on Feb. 8, 1960, are, from left, Los Angeles County Supervisor Ernest Debs; Hollywood Chamber of Commerce President E.M. Stuart; actresses Gigi Perreau and Linda Darnell; Harry M. Sugarman, president of the Hollywood Improvement Assn.; and actors Francis X. Bushman and Charles Coburn.

http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2...e_52062127.jpg
Source: hollywoodland http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2...e_52062127.jpg

MichaelRyerson Feb 8, 2011 8:44 PM

Mount Lowe, then and now.
 
Well let's try this again...

Thought I'd try to contribute something to this great thread. Found these on Shorpy, one of my all-time favorite sites. The 'now' pic is by a Shorpy contributor (Dandy). Fifty years ago, my father and several of my uncles took some of us kids hiking up the Mount Lowe right-of-way (yes, I'm that old), the tracks and most of the trestles were long gone even then. I think you can still find evidence of both the Railway and the several resort buildings today.

First image from 1913...

http://www.shorpy.com/files/images/4a25762a.preview.jpg

http://www.shorpy.com/files/images/4a25762a.preview.jpg


and today...

http://www.shorpy.com/images/photos/alpine.jpg

http://www.shorpy.com/images/photos/alpine.jpg

ethereal_reality Feb 8, 2011 11:47 PM

I'm not sure what you're doing wrong MichaelRyerson.

Perhaps someone with better computer skills than I have can help explain how to post a photo.


The first step is downloading your photos to a photo sharing site.
I post mine through Imageshack. It's FREE (unless you want larger storage capacity).
A few other sites are Photobucket, SmugMug and Flickr.

ethereal_reality Feb 9, 2011 1:19 AM

An AMAZING item currently on ebay for the next 3 days.

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/2...nebook1947.jpg
ebay

I have bid up to 86.00 dollars and it still isn't the highest bid. :( (I hope I haven't been bidding against someone from this thread)

I thought something like this would help keep the thread alive.
You know...names and addresses leading to obscure photos via google images and such.
Also the year 1947 makes it especially enticing (the year of the Black Dahlia murder).

At this point it's out of my reach financially.

sopas ej Feb 9, 2011 2:44 AM

:previous:
Right now ethereal I see that it's at $87. I wonder how high it'll eventually sell for. It would go great next to my vintage black rotary dial telephone with black cloth-covered handset cord, a Western Electric, circa 1937. And it works.

Here it is:
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot..._6607267_n.jpg
Photo by me

I don't have money to collect vintage cars (though I wish I did); instead, I have a vintage phone. :-P

ethereal_reality Feb 9, 2011 3:49 AM

Damn...that phone is great sopas_ej. I wish you could have the phone book. :)

Those 19 bids are mostly me....bidding piece-meal. When I started it was only 1 or 2 bids.

gsjansen Feb 9, 2011 1:45 PM

smog hangs heavy over the civic center viewed from a rooftop on bernard Street between Broadway and North Hill Street in Chinatown - 1958


http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5293/...2b6d8273_b.jpg
Source: Ebay

gsjansen Feb 9, 2011 1:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson (Post 5156605)
Well let's try this again...

Thought I'd try to contribute something to this great thread. Found these on Shorpy, one of my all-time favorite sites. The 'now' pic is by a Shorpy contributor (Dandy). Fifty years ago, my father and several of my uncles took some of us kids hiking up the Mount Lowe right-of-way (yes, I'm that old), the tracks and most of the trestles were long gone even then. I think you can still find evidence of both the Railway and the several resort buildings today.

First image from 1913...

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5294/...1f63c051_b.jpg

http://www.shorpy.com/files/images/4a25762a.preview.jpg


and today...

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5216/...c5b5bbf6_b.jpg

http://www.shorpy.com/images/photos/alpine.jpg

i thought i would try and help you out. i saved the photos to my flickr account, and uploaded them that way:tup:

:::::2 second later update:::::

just as i posted this , i see you solved your problem!

well then i'll just add this postcard of the search light on mount echo to keep the post on topic

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1271/...b2194e85_o.jpg

A man stands next to a large searchlight on a platform on top of Echo Mountain in Los Angeles, California. A reflection of the Echo Mountain House is visible in the lens of the searchlight. The landscape below is largely undeveloped farmland.
Shortly after retiring to Los Angeles in the 1880s, Thaddeus Lowe began construction on the Mount Lowe Railway, which wound for nearly seven miles around Mount Lowe and Echo Mountain. The track ended at the summit of Echo Mountain, where tourists could visit an observatory, casino and dance hall, or stay at one of several hotels. In 1893. In 1894, Lowe installed on Echo Mountain a three million candlepower searchlight purchased from the Columbian Exposition held in Chicago. The searchlight's reflecting mirror was 60 inches in diameter, and was manufactured by Mangin, in Paris, France. The beam from the light had a 35-mile projection, and was advertised as being able to illuminate the island of Catalina from its mountain perch. Residents announcing their birthdays could have the light shone on their homes in the evening. By the 1930s, however, the light was considered a public nuisance and was shut off permanently.

MichaelRyerson Feb 9, 2011 3:05 PM

Great shots of the wharf and the beach
 
Hard to believe but I think that's a dusting of snow on the Santa Monica mountains!


Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 4965956)
The longest wharf in the world located off Pacific Palisades (1892).


http://a.imageshack.us/img101/2322/l...nicamilelo.jpg
postcard/ebay





below: The Santa Monica Railroad leading to the Big Wharf, March 3rd, 1894.

http://a.imageshack.us/img810/8120/l...nicarrlead.jpg
usc





below: Pacific Palisades mile long wharf in 1893.

http://a.imageshack.us/img261/1985/l...ficpalisad.jpg
usc

Notice the RR turntable in the lower right corner.







below: An excellant view of the mile long wharf in 1916.

http://a.imageshack.us/img576/3531/l...npacificwh.jpg
usc







below: This 1912 view really illustrates the extreme length of the wharf. It's just amazing.
To be honest, I didn't know this wharf existed until a few months ago.


http://a.imageshack.us/img90/8828/la...gwharfin19.jpg







below: Pacific Palisades in the 1920s.
The description on the photo didn't say, but I'm guessing this is where the mile long wharf used to be.

http://a.imageshack.us/img225/3631/l...cificpalis.jpg
usc


MichaelRyerson Feb 9, 2011 3:17 PM

Thanks GSJ, I'm still fumbling around.
 
I'm the most amateur urban archeologist imaginable but I'm a native Angelino and I love my home town. And I love this thread. Up to page 88 now. Thanks for the thoughtfulness.


Quote:

Originally Posted by gsjansen (Post 5157616)
i thought i would try and help you out. i saved the photos to my flickr account, and uploaded them that way:tup:

:::::2 second later update:::::

just as i posted this , i see you solved your problem!

well then i'll just add this postcard of the search light on mount echo to keep the post on topic

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1271/...b2194e85_o.jpg

A man stands next to a large searchlight on a platform on top of Echo Mountain in Los Angeles, California. A reflection of the Echo Mountain House is visible in the lens of the searchlight. The landscape below is largely undeveloped farmland.
Shortly after retiring to Los Angeles in the 1880s, Thaddeus Lowe began construction on the Mount Lowe Railway, which wound for nearly seven miles around Mount Lowe and Echo Mountain. The track ended at the summit of Echo Mountain, where tourists could visit an observatory, casino and dance hall, or stay at one of several hotels. In 1893. In 1894, Lowe installed on Echo Mountain a three million candlepower searchlight purchased from the Columbian Exposition held in Chicago. The searchlight's reflecting mirror was 60 inches in diameter, and was manufactured by Mangin, in Paris, France. The beam from the light had a 35-mile projection, and was advertised as being able to illuminate the island of Catalina from its mountain perch. Residents announcing their birthdays could have the light shone on their homes in the evening. By the 1930s, however, the light was considered a public nuisance and was shut off permanently.


MichaelRyerson Feb 9, 2011 4:40 PM

Used to walk to this Sears store with my mother and little brother...
 
they had the coolest pneumatic message system thoughout with pipes running up from the sales counters and then along the ceiling. Also one our favorite things was to go stand in the x-ray box in the shoe department and look through the viewer and see the bones of our feet inside our shoes. Honest. Hard to believe they had such things but they did and they were enormously entertaining to a seven year old.


Quote:

Originally Posted by gsjansen (Post 4998104)
sears roebuck 5601 santa monica boulevard in hollywood 1928 and now

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4150/...2e1f754b_b.jpg

it's hard to believe that these two images are the same building:eeekk:

here's another building that lost it's fenestration's over time, the nuwilshire theater 1314 wilshire boulevard in santa monica 1938 and now

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4092/...5b5731f5_b.jpg



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