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Chuckaluck Jul 14, 2014 11:36 PM

The real reason Monkey Island disappeared? Or maybe . . .

some of its former inmates took up residence in Santa Monica?

1958 Safari Ride (Ocean Park, Santa Monica)
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00077/00077808.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/00077/00077808.jpg

GaylordWilshire Jul 15, 2014 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuckaluck (Post 6654498)
1925 Ninth and Flower Streets Totally unrecognizable today. (Was Judge Guy Bush retained?)
http://i.imgur.com/h2IWlh8.jpg?1?9100http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics08/00013865.jpg



https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-O...2520PM.bmp.jpgCorbis
May 3, 1933--original caption per Corbis: "The old and the new...Eli (left), and Judge Guy F. Bush, and Betty (left), and Barbara Bush were the oldest and youngest sets of twins attending the annual twin party given by the Curry family at Camp Baldy, California. Eli and Guy are fifty years old, while Betty and Barbara are just four."


Well, it seems that Bush did remain on the bench beyond that ca. 1925 election. At least until 1934:

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-1...2520PM.bmp.jpghttps://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-x...2520PM.bmp.jpghttps://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Y...firedcompl.jpg
LAT Oct 31 and Nov 17, 1934


I lost count of the judge's marriages, but he was on his fourth divorce by 1940:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-m...2520PM.bmp.jpg
LAT March 5, 1940


But it still wasn't over...

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-P...2520PM.bmp.jpghttps://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-x...2520PM.bmp.jpghttps://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-4...2520PM.bmp.jpg
LAT March 13, 1934/July 24, 1951/July 25, 1951


And there must have been a 6th. 7th? 8th? 9th?

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-U...2520PM.bmp.jpgLAT Dec 6, 1960

Chuckaluck Jul 15, 2014 12:56 AM

:previous: Thank you GW for the info on Judge Bush. This information might have made me rethink my vote or at least consult with Mayor Shaw!



Judge Silent got around. Glendora, West Adams, Chester Square . . .

Judge Silent's residenceS: http://skyscraperpage.com/forum/show...postcount=2037


The source suggests this event may have occurred in the Glendora (Pasadena) location. It is found in gsjansen's original post (above).
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...EVH7UKL7B1.jpghttp://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...EVH7UKL7B1.jpg




Glendora
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...AR1GKRYBR7.jpghttp://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...AR1GKRYBR7.jpg


West Adams
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...KQNL58UG3Q.jpghttp://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...KQNL58UG3Q.jpg

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...MC2SKR92YG.jpghttp://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...MC2SKR92YG.jpg


http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...TSCRF9PXXR.jpghttp://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...TSCRF9PXXR.jpg

Chuckaluck Jul 15, 2014 5:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeD (Post 5084582)
and here's the old Max Factor Building, both in Hollywood

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/b.../LP2008176.jpg



http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...KVNACDYPYD.jpghttp://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...KVNACDYPYD.jpg


Mid '30s
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...C7UNP12TAE.jpghttp://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...C7UNP12TAE.jpg

Flyingwedge Jul 15, 2014 5:19 AM

Outside 433 S. Olive, April 9, 1952
 
What kind of employment opportunities did Pacific Telephone offer to women in 1952? Even with a limited range of positions (operator, secretary . . . ?), it seems odd to physically separate female job applicants from their male counterparts.
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...1.jpg~original
USCDL -- http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/re...oll44/id/43983

There was a strike at the time, which is why there are so many people on the sidewalk. Plus we get a little of the Trenton and Fremont Hotels up the street.

Chuckaluck Jul 15, 2014 5:24 AM

Happily - 2427 N Broadway is still there!

Mid to late '30s
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...S9P454YJ1R.jpghttp://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...S9P454YJ1R.jpg

Chuckaluck Jul 15, 2014 5:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 6653467)



Getting back to the Whitmarsh/Hotel Lindy's former arches, perhaps they were removed when the now-vacant Garfield Building was built next door?
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...e.jpg~original
Inlewolf/Found Type -- http://inlewof.blogspot.com/2008_12_01_archive.html

And no wonder the Garfield Building is vacant: its lobby has this really boring green and purple marble . . . ho-hum:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...6.jpg~original
Gelt Inc. -- http://geltinc.com/blog/2009/05/27/garfield-building/

More on the Garfield Building:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=2328
http://bigorangelandmarks.blogspot.c...-building.html



'30s
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...ERCJ4GAYYE.jpghttp://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...ERCJ4GAYYE.jpg


http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...B6KQKIK3P5.jpghttp://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...B6KQKIK3P5.jpg


http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...S1A5V4J1EQ.jpghttp://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...S1A5V4J1EQ.jpg

Chuckaluck Jul 15, 2014 6:02 AM


This photo makes clear the building went through several changes, most notably the expansion of its waist line. How soon after this earlier photo the changes were made is unknown. There is nothing wrong with the capped tower, but I am partial to the sharp points at the roof line - in the earlier version, not that anyone was asking. Makes it easier for Doug Fairbanks, or his stunt double, to ascend. As pondered in another post, I wonder about the building's original color or colors, especially those contrasting shapes near the sidewalk.


http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...CEL93S4HUV.jpghttp://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...CEL93S4HUV.jpg

lead2203 Jul 15, 2014 8:41 AM

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Graybeard Jul 15, 2014 9:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 6654918)
What kind of employment opportunities did Pacific Telephone offer to women in 1952? Even with a limited range of positions (operator, secretary . . . ?), it seems odd to physically separate female job applicants from their male counterparts.
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...1.jpg~original
USCDL -- http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/re...oll44/id/43983

There was a strike at the time, which is why there are so many people on the sidewalk. Plus we get a little of the Trenton and Fremont Hotels up the street.

Probably a great place to pick up chicks.
(Queue the PC cops)

HossC Jul 15, 2014 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuckaluck (Post 6654924)

To save people the drive in the GoogleMobile:

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...7NBroadway.jpg
GSV

GaylordWilshire Jul 15, 2014 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 6654918)
What kind of employment opportunities did Pacific Telephone offer to women in 1952? Even with a limited range of positions (operator, secretary . . . ?), it seems odd to physically separate female job applicants from their male counterparts.
http://i.imgur.com/WewqCzz.jpg?1?8620
USCDL -- http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/re...oll44/id/43983

There was a strike at the time, which is why there are so many people on the sidewalk. Plus we get a little of the Trenton and Fremont Hotels up the street.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Graybeard (Post 6655060)
Probably a great place to pick up chicks.
(Queue the PC cops)


https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/--...2520AM.bmp.jpgUSCDL


Looks like the looker second from the left has just managed to pick up the chick second from the right.... This photo is from the USCDL set found by FW--according to the library's information, the set included pictures taken both on Olive Street and at 911 Venice Boulevard, the leftmost part of which appears may have been the site of the 'hookup" picture above:


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-_...2520AM.bmp.jpgGSV


This seems to have started out circa 1926 as the Le Cheminant mortuary, which Wilford Le Cheminant appears to have been calling the Mission Mortuary by 1942; in the '56 CD it was the Mission Nisei parlor, which I guess evolved into Kubota Nikkei.... Not sure why the funeral parlor was being used as a union meeting spot.


https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-w...2520AM.bmp.jpgGSV
Le Cheminant and his wife lived on the property in the '20s.

Chuckaluck Jul 15, 2014 3:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6655083)
To save people the drive in the GoogleMobile:

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...7NBroadway.jpg
GSV


http://you-are-here.com/sculpture/street_clock.jpghttp://you-are-here.com/sculpture/street_clock.jpg


Thank you HossC for the follow up. The large sidewalk clock distracted me. Clocks in the middle of the sidewalk are clearly an uncommon sight. The clock was reportedly placed on N Broadway courtesy of the Lincoln Heights Chamber of Commerce, circa 1910. It may have legs as it does not appear in the early photo and it looks like the clock face has had a position change. The clock's face looks awfully new too.

(I have heard stories that there may have been one or two clock faces embedded in the sidewalk downtown - but have not, thus far, found any evidence of this. NY is another story. See e.g., Broadway and Maiden Lane in NYC below.)




Setting aside famous footprints and stars, and an occasional translucent glass brick, does LA have any other unusual/overlooked sidewalk attractions?

The building's facade appears to have faired well. Curious what colors were original to such a less-than-sedate design. I suppose it was too much to ask that the advertising be kept symmetrical per the original designer's intent.


San Diego's spectacular The Jessop Clock (Currently at Horton Plaza) http://www.sandiegohistory.org/journ...images/p52.jpg

NYC, Broadway and Maiden Lane clock embedded "in" the sidewalk. http://i2.wp.com/laughingsquid.com/w...size=640%2C427

Saratoga Springs, NY has a similar clock on its Broadway http://ww4.hdnux.com/photos/04/21/70.../3/960x540.jpg

BifRayRock Jul 15, 2014 4:55 PM





"Brownies"



Thought it was mentioned. Maybe not.


The Calmos service station at ~4976 Hollywood Boulevard may have evoked visions of the Arabian nights or other North African motifs featured in some of Doug Fairbank's pictures.;) In this instance, the domed structure and the gas pumps are gone - - but two minarets are still extant. Curious, as always, whether the towers had any utilitarian purpose other than tall decoration. Because of their height, were they lit? They would afford a nice view. :cool: Would the "lookouts" have been accessible internally? Call Dick Whittington.

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...JV3DFNS7B7.jpghttp://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...JV3DFNS7B7.jpg


http://www.justabovesunset.com/20090..._ehTower01.jpghttp://www.justabovesunset.com/20090..._ehTower00.jpghttp://www.justabovesunset.com/20090..._ehTower01.jpg



http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...id/33595/rec/1


1932 (Do I spy TWO domes?)
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...mos&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...mos&DMROTATE=0
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...mos&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...mos&DMROTATE=0


http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...mos&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...mos&DMROTATE=0
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...mos&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...mos&DMROTATE=0


http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...mos&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...mos&DMROTATE=0


http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...mos&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...mos&DMROTATE=0
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...mos&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...mos&DMROTATE=0
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...mos&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...mos&DMROTATE=0


Suspect there were similarly "themed" gas-service stations at 7171 Beverly Blvd. and 7201 Beverly Blvd.





Flyingwedge Jul 15, 2014 5:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuckaluck (Post 6652039)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuckaluck (Post 6655343)

:offtopic:


This forum is called Noirish Los Angeles. Photos taken in Florida, San Diego, and New York are not germane to what we discuss here.

Chuckaluck Jul 15, 2014 5:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 6655565)
:offtopic:


This forum is called Noirish Los Angeles. Photos taken in Florida, San Diego, and New York are not germane to what we discuss here.

It was my sole intention to highlight objects or features that related to the subject, even if remotely. It was an attempt to foster interest in similar Los Angeles imagery. If a So-Cal structure bears a striking resemblance to the Taj Mahal, I see little harm in posting the purported copy and the original for the sake of comparison and further discussion - concerning the So-Cal version. Nevertheless, I have deleted the so-called “off-topic” imagery.

GaylordWilshire Jul 15, 2014 6:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuckaluck (Post 6655678)
If a So-Cal structure bears a striking resemblance to the Taj Mahal, I see little harm in posting the purported copy and the original for the sake of comparison and further discussion - concerning the So-Cal version.



This seems fair enough to me. And non-LA comparison views are not at all unprecedented here on NLA.

Chuckaluck Jul 15, 2014 7:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 6655728)
This seems fair enough to me. And non-LA comparison views are not at all unprecedented here on NLA.

Thank you. I respectfully disagree with the notion that all non-LA images are, by definition, wholly unrelated to the subject and thus verboten. In the interest of "getting along," the complained-of images have been deleted. The links to the images were left intact, should anyone care to view them and explore further.

Like so many of the posted images, demarcation lines for this "thread" are gray and ill defined. Lest one forget, the geographic connection is obvious from the thread title, "Noirish Los Angeles," but, as you note, there are plenty of extra-geographical image exceptions. Many of those images provoked further discovery leading to an LA-noir-nexus and an LA-noir image. Depending upon who is wearing the referee (moderator) costume, it is easy to stray off of any "perceived" field. Setting aside pure geographical content, it is now unclear whether that playing field should exclude an LA photo that fails to satisfy some ill defined test of "noirishness." Same with images that are primarily posted for entertainment value or comic relief. Can noir be funny?

For some, posting an image (assuming it existed) of Sister Aimee holding hands with an individual resembling Mayor Shaw - at the Eiffel Tower, might apparently be way out of bounds. Should I locate such an image, I shall think twice about posting it here.

Flyingwedge Jul 15, 2014 9:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuckaluck (Post 6655843)
Thank you. I respectfully disagree with the notion that all non-LA images are, by definition, wholly unrelated to the subject and thus verboten. In the interest of "getting along," the complained-of images have been deleted. The links to the images were left intact, should anyone care to view them and explore further.

Like so many of the posted images, demarcation lines for this "thread" are gray and ill defined. Lest one forget, the geographic connection is obvious from the thread title, "Noirish Los Angeles," but, as you note, there are plenty of extra-geographical image exceptions. Many of those images provoked further discovery leading to an LA-noir-nexus and an LA-noir image. Depending upon who is wearing the referee (moderator) costume, it is easy to stray off of any "perceived" field. Setting aside pure geographical content, it is now unclear whether that playing field should exclude an LA photo that fails to satisfy some ill defined test of "noirishness." Same with images that are primarily posted for entertainment value or comic relief. Can noir be funny?

For some, posting an image (assuming it existed) of Sister Aimee holding hands with an individual resembling Mayor Shaw - at the Eiffel Tower, might apparently be way out of bounds. Should I locate such an image, I shall think twice about posting it here.

This forum clearly stopped being strictly noirish a long time ago, but it's still about Los Angeles. A post about different LA sidewalk clocks might be interesting. But a post at Noirish Los Angeles with one LA sidewalk clock photo and three out-of-town clock photos doesn't have enough LA photos.

And posting the photo taken in Florida of a car that looks like a car in a photo taken in Los Angeles is supposed to provoke "further discovery leading to an LA-noir-nexus and an LA-noir image"?

Lwize Jul 15, 2014 9:38 PM

Let's just stay on point and keep things LA-centric in here.

Noirish New York could have their own website, let alone thread.


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