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GaylordWilshire Jul 5, 2014 8:56 PM


Adams Street, when it had a median. And behind the picket fence, the J. D. Hooker house...

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics24/00061903.jpgLAPL


More info in a 2010 post: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=1854


The south end of famous Palm Drive, seen here many times, is just past the Hooker house in the top shot...

Tourmaline Jul 5, 2014 9:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuckaluck (Post 6642988)
Neon and Earle C Anthony, a seemingly inexhaustible topic?

1929 Packard, 1000 S. Hope (Look to far right above and between what appears to be garage entrance and exit. Could that be one of LA's earliest neon signs? :hmmm: :blink:)
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...HLEJMJQLIE.jpghttp://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...HLEJMJQLIE.jpg


Guessing the above Packard sign would have been on the outside directly above these two building openings.
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...5N4H1CDRHJ.jpg http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...5N4H1CDRHJ.jpg



Probably not. :previous:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-gyCekNQQsq...47-pacsign.jpghttp://2.bp.blogspot.com/-gyCekNQQsq...47-pacsign.jpg



But - Packards were on La Brea (a few blocks north of Wilshire).


Breawood Auto Service Station - 367 N. La Brea

Source dates photos 1933. CD Listing is from 1938. 1936 CD has listing for Breawood Market at 401 N. La Brea.http://rescarta.lapl.org:8080/ResCar...00003/00000002


http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...d/37318/rec/50


http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ard&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ard&DMROTATE=0
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ard&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ard&DMROTATE=0


http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ard&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ard&DMROTATE=0
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ard&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ard&DMROTATE=0



*Edit Source incorrectly labels this a 1939 or '40 Packard Cab. No address or additional info provided. Since been identified as a '39-'41 Checker Cab.
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ard&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ard&DMROTATE=0
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ard&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ard&DMROTATE=0 http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si...d/11167/rec/57

6051?
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ard&DMROTATE=0
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ard&DMROTATE=0





1931 - Tenth (later Olympic) and Hope http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...d/19633/rec/76

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ard&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ard&DMROTATE=0
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ard&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ard&DMROTATE=0


http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ard&DMROTATE=0
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ard&DMROTATE=0



Neon in '31
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ard&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ard&DMROTATE=0
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ard&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ard&DMROTATE=0

Per this "1931" Neon seems to have be de rigueur in this LA neighborhood.
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ard&DMROTATE=0
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ard&DMROTATE=0

ethereal_reality Jul 5, 2014 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FredH (Post 6641467)
ER - I also use Windows Vista with Google Chrome. I don't have the 'jigsaw' problem you have, so I have a feeling that the difference may be in your screen resolution setting. Try this:

Click on Adjust Screen Resolution

Mine is set on 1280 by 768 pixels (I think you move the slider to adjust it)

Thanks FredH, that worked!
At first my images were squished, so I adjusted the ratio, and now everything is copasetic. No more jigsaw images!
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Chuckaluck Jul 5, 2014 10:25 PM

Sincerest form of flattery or character misappropriation? :rolleyes:

1917
http://media-cache-cd0.pinimg.com/73...1d29e9b38a.jpghttp://media-cache-cd0.pinimg.com/73...1d29e9b38a.jpg

1928 - Spanish Clown, Pepito and Charlie unknown in front of Grauman's. Much more here: http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co.../69882/rec/201
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ard&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ard&DMROTATE=0
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ard&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ard&DMROTATE=0





1931 - London
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-1eus-MhEms...9134418978.jpghttp://2.bp.blogspot.com/-1eus-MhEms...9134418978.jpg

Chuckaluck Jul 5, 2014 10:39 PM

And Pepito was unhurt?

Note to all: I no longer let any clown drive my Packard. (Same goes for the Tesla, especially near water.) :no: :no:


http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...id/82339/rec/7



1935
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ard&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ard&DMROTATE=0
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ard&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ard&DMROTATE=0

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ard&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ard&DMROTATE=0
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ard&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ard&DMROTATE=0

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http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ard&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ard&DMROTATE=0

CityBoyDoug Jul 5, 2014 10:56 PM

KFI radio.
 
Besides Packards, neon signs... Anthony was big in radio.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps665a045c.jpg
USC archive

Earle C. Anthony 1880 - 1961
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps02feaf83.jpg
KFI historical photos

Chuckaluck Jul 5, 2014 11:14 PM

Gilmore Stadium, Fairfax Theater and the French House.

Many mentions on NLA: e.g., http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=20157 and
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=20146



http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ard&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ard&DMROTATE=0
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ard&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ard&DMROTATE=0



http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ard&DMROTATE=0
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ard&DMROTATE=0


French House? 330 N. Fairfax "Near Beverly." 1942 CD: "Fine food as only a French Chef can prepare it." (President Marguirite Taix. Any relation to Taix?)
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ard&DMROTATE=0



Martin?
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ard&DMROTATE=0

All from: http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...id/88527/rec/1

corriganville Jul 6, 2014 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lwize (Post 6643020)
http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/3527155.jpg
(panoramio.com)

OK, Noir Sleuths:

The Los Angeles Mormon Temple, located in WLA on Santa Monica Blvd at Overland Avenue. It's been there since the late 1950's, and is on a sizable chunk of land, considering the area was developed thirty years prior as residential.

What was on this land prior to the 1950's temple? Was there an earlier Mormon temple? A school? Something else? Just open land?

Dazzle me with your intel. :)

The Harold Lloyd Movie Ranch used to be there.

HossC Jul 6, 2014 1:19 AM

:previous:

To add the corriganville's info:

Historic Aerials' earliest image for that area is 1952, and appears to show the beginning of the temple's construction.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original
Historic Aerials

USC have this aerial view which shows the completed temple and surroundings in 1954.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...4.jpg~original
USC Digital Library

ethereal_reality Jul 6, 2014 2:11 AM

The regal looking residence in the background caught my eye.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/829/ft69.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800.../842/bz7qi.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1924-photo-H...item1e8e175f6c





Are those chrome mud scrapers on the running board?
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/840/rlwg.jpg




-lots of interesting information on the reverse.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/855/bdc0.jpg
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ethereal_reality Jul 6, 2014 2:21 AM

Los Angeles Pressed Brick Co. (no date)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128.../842/7vnw3.jpg
ebay

Anyone have an address?
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Flyingwedge Jul 6, 2014 2:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lwize (Post 6643020)
http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/3527155.jpg
(panoramio.com)

OK, Noir Sleuths:

The Los Angeles Mormon Temple, located in WLA on Santa Monica Blvd at Overland Avenue. It's been there since the late 1950's, and is on a sizable chunk of land, considering the area was developed thirty years prior as residential.

What was on this land prior to the 1950's temple? Was there an earlier Mormon temple? A school? Something else? Just open land?

Dazzle me with your intel. :)

1937 Sanborn Map; where the Temple building is now (lot 24245) looks like a separate property from the movie studio. Could the house near the lower right corner of lot 24245 have been an old ranch house?
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...8.jpg~original
LAPL

Closeup of Zeta Psi fraternity house at 1699 Manning Avenue from above map (in lower right corner of lot 24245); VEN'D means veneered:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...4.jpg~original

1699 Manning Avenue in 1936 LA City Directory:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...7.jpg~original
LAPL -- http://rescarta.lapl.org/ResCarta-We...00003/00000002

WS1911 Jul 6, 2014 3:01 AM

Checker Cab
 

Nice post on Packards. The cab show above is actually a 1939-1941 Checker Model A Cab. With a front end that you could spot a couple of blocks away!

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-wWqu-092uQ...wnload%2Ba.bmp http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-r4vxa3EN1o...wnload%2Bc.bmp

Justacarguy.blogspot.com

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Lwize Jul 6, 2014 3:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by corriganville (Post 6643245)
The Harold Lloyd Movie Ranch used to be there.

That's cool!

I read a little further in the book of Westwood (parts found on Google), and discovered Janss Investment Co courted film studios to build in Westwood, and Lloyd and Fox built. Part of Lloyd's ranch was sold after the Great Depression to LA Unified Schools, which built Emerson Jr High school in 1937 (covering 10 acres behind the Mormon Temple).

This aerial was noted as "1928" in the Westwood book, but it already shows the Emerson school, so it's probably 1938:

http://www.movielocationsplus.com/Ha...oydRanch01.jpg
(movielocationsplus.com)

The property was purchased in 1923 where John Wolfskill (Wolfskill Farm) had built a home in 1913, before selling 3,000+ acres in 1919 for the development of Westwood.
I'm going to guess the frat house on the Sanborn map is Wolfskill's 1913 home.

CityBoyDoug Jul 6, 2014 3:32 AM

Anyone for some fresh air?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WS1911 (Post 6643298)
Nice post on Packards. The cab show above is actually a 1939-1941 Checker Model A Cab. With a front end that you could spot a couple of blocks away!

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-wWqu-092uQ...wnload%2Ba.bmp http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-r4vxa3EN1o...wnload%2Bc.bmp

Justacarguy.blogspot.com

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The strange looking rear roof was called the ''Landaulet". It could be opened by the driver from his front seat by a lever-wire device. I did read there is only one of these models left in existence.

The strange front fenders were made that way to prevent accident damage. The car itself was very long lasting...500,000 miles or more was just getting started with these vehicles. A private person could buy the Checker but it was rare.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps8778abae.jpg
USC archive

Tourmaline Jul 6, 2014 4:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WS1911 (Post 6643298)
Nice post on Packards. The cab show above is actually a 1939-1941 Checker Model A Cab. With a front end that you could spot a couple of blocks away!

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-wWqu-092uQ...wnload%2Ba.bmp http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-r4vxa3EN1o...wnload%2Bc.bmp

Justacarguy.blogspot.com

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Thanks for the update. I did not recognize this car other than it appeared to be purpose-built and assumed (wrongfully) that the source had superior info. Looked like it was designed to handle heavy loads on very "uneven" pavement. Not the most attractive set of wheels on the '39-'41 roads. Given to the British as part of Lend Lease?


Could this front end have been inspired by a character from the '36 version of Flash Gordon?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-TyoOBpewg_...redownload.bmphttp://1.bp.blogspot.com/-TyoOBpewg_...redownload.bmp

Ming the Merciless
http://entropy2.com/madscience/wp-co...merciless.jpeghttp://entropy2.com/madscience/wp-co...merciless.jpeg

Wenders Jul 6, 2014 6:27 AM

First neon sign in U.S
 
Can't recall my source right now ( I have hundreds of books) but supposedly La Brea Packard dealer's neon sign wasn't only the first neon sign in L.A, but first in U.S.

Somebody visited France, saw a neon sign, and brought the idea to America.
Something like that.
Feel free to correct me if your sources are better than mine.

Beaudry Jul 6, 2014 6:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 6637853)

Thanks for the assist!

Beaudry Jul 6, 2014 6:44 AM

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3926/...d327b28d_o.jpg

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5492/...b7ee86d4_o.jpghttps://farm6.staticflickr.com/5539/...cb1172e4_o.jpg

As an addendum to the whole State Bldg/Times Basement/buried treasure tales of late -- these steps were demolished in the last couple weeks. Why couldn't they have been worked into the new park? Granted, they don't scream ADA Compliant, but it would have been nice to've made a passing nod to the history of the building.

sadykadie2 Jul 6, 2014 6:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6643256)
:previous:

To add the corriganville's info:

Historic Aerials' earliest image for that area is 1952, and appears to show the beginning of the temple's construction.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original
Historic Aerials

USC have this aerial view which shows the completed temple and surroundings in 1954.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...4.jpg~original
USC Digital Library

Hey! Being Mormon myself, I'd love to know the history of the temple, Hoss!


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