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eleven=11 Feb 4, 2015 1:00 AM

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/br...202-story.html

eleven=11 Feb 4, 2015 1:30 AM

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Originally Posted by eleven=11 (Post 6900707)

link above is for tri-rail expansion to miami
http://media.bizj.us/view/img/488255...ortlist*xx.jpg
anybody got new pics of the orlando station, new accurate pics

N830MH Feb 5, 2015 3:17 AM

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Originally Posted by eleven=11 (Post 6900745)
link above is for tri-rail expansion to miami
http://media.bizj.us/view/img/488255...ortlist*xx.jpg
anybody got new pics of the orlando station, new accurate pics

Here the news about new Miami Airport station. It won't be open sometime late March or early April during at that time.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/br...109-story.html

eleven=11 Feb 6, 2015 10:38 PM

http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/ripti...er_stadium.php
not about AAF but next to the new MIA airport tri-rail/amtrak&metrorail

eleven=11 Feb 10, 2015 5:30 PM

The Maps Are New.
google maps & wiki maps, very newish.
check out Ft lauderdale Airport, the new runway is done
AAF trains will go underneath the airport.
also downtown miami AAF station is under construction
all the parking lots are gone.
you can see the gulfstream park pegases. wow?

eleven=11 Feb 12, 2015 4:14 AM

http://www.miamitodaynews.com/2015/0...just-one-shot/

Hatman Feb 12, 2015 5:19 AM

Okay, so if I get that article right, TriRail needs to pay $48 million for their share of the downtown station, $20 million for upgrades to the track leading up to the station, and $1 million to tie in their tracks with AAF's.
I had thought it was odd how TriRail's platform was always included in the rendering even though there wasn't any talk yet of splitting the costs. I do think it is strange that AAF gets to plan an extravagant station design (more costly) and then compel the transit agency to go along with it. I like the station, but it's cool looks do little financial good to TriRail. Instead, all the profits from the stores and office space would go to AAF. Most customers going through that station will probably be TriRail commuters. That is why this station is poised to make so much more money. Will AAF charge a user fee for TriRail, or will TriRail get to own their own platform and tracks? AAF should not charge a user fee, because trirail will add so much value to the AAF properties (probably more than the express trains will).

bobdreamz Feb 12, 2015 2:35 PM

There is no room for Tri-Rail to have it's own tracks hence they are using the FEC/ AAF tracks. Honestly I think AAF is trying to gouge Tri-Rail knowing full well they can't come up with that kind of money in less than 2 months.

eleven=11 Feb 15, 2015 9:13 PM

http://tri-railcoastallink.com/downloads/AltBv5.pdf
good map of new tri-rail

chris08876 Feb 17, 2015 11:28 PM

Martin And Indian River County Vote To Spend Millions In Fight Against All Aboard Florida

http://i.imgur.com/ajL7Fyl.jpg

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Residents of the Treasure Coast are upset about All Aboard Florida’s plan to run dozens of trains every day between Miami and Orlando without stopping in their area, and now their leaders are taking action.

Yesterday, Indian River County voted to spend up to $2.7 million to fight All Aboard Florida (that’s 1% of the county’s budget). A separate vote was held yesterday in neighboring Martin County, where commissioners approved spending $1.4 million to fight the plan, bringing the total to $4.1 million.

Site work is already underway on stations in Miami, Fort Lauderdale and West Palm Beach, where the plan has been well received.

The Palm Beach Post reports that the wording of Indian Rivers’ resolution was left intentionally vague to allow for a variety of uses, including lobbyists, lawsuits and environmental studies.
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http://www.thenextmiami.com/index.ph...ollowing-vote/

eleven=11 Feb 17, 2015 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by eleven=11 (Post 6916632)

how do i post the pdf file, sorry i forgot how....
AAF should just add a station in Martin/Indian county.

Hatman Feb 18, 2015 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by chris08876 (Post 6918940)
Martin And Indian River County Vote To Spend Millions In Fight Against All Aboard Florida

http://i.imgur.com/ajL7Fyl.jpg


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http://www.thenextmiami.com/index.ph...ollowing-vote/

Exactly what do they think they can accomplish, other than providing work for some attornies/lobists/friends? I mean, is this any real threat to the project or are they just throwing away money to show that they are angry?

AAF owns the tracks and right-of-way. They are a private company operating without any subsidy. At this point, what could these counties come up with to stop the project?

Jasonhouse Feb 18, 2015 1:06 AM

^Sounds like a slush fund to me. $4.1 million to "fight" something which can't be fought? There's really no other reasonable explanation.

chris08876 Feb 18, 2015 1:15 AM

There too much money to be made for this to even be a threat. It won't and they will need a lot more money to fight something on this scale. More of a publicity stunt to try to get negative views on the project if anything, but ... this will commence as planned and there is site work, so its not going to stop because of this vote or a iota of a complaints.

. Here we have a great project which can bring mass transit to Florida and their complaining. Shame on them! Not everybody can get what they wan't, and they aren't going to stall this project because of it.

chris08876 Feb 18, 2015 1:20 AM

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Originally Posted by eleven=11 (Post 6918966)
how do i post the pdf file, sorry i forgot how....
AAF should just add a station in Martin/Indian county.

Take a screenshot in acrobat x or reader and save it as a jpeg then use a file uploading service.

Edit:

Here is it...

http://oi58.tinypic.com/2djea7m.jpg

dave8721 Feb 18, 2015 2:57 PM

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Originally Posted by chris08876 (Post 6918940)
Martin And Indian River County Vote To Spend Millions In Fight Against All Aboard Florida

http://i.imgur.com/ajL7Fyl.jpg


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http://www.thenextmiami.com/index.ph...ollowing-vote/

The tracks go right through the heart of downtown Ft. Pierce, Jupiter, and Port St.Lucie, and Vero Beach. AAF could probably get them off their backs by saying if you build stations at your own expense we will stop the trains there a few times a day (definitely not every train, that would slow down the Miami to Orlando trip too much).

brickell Feb 18, 2015 3:00 PM

Guess I'll stop spending money in Indian River and Martin Counties.

chris08876 Feb 19, 2015 9:46 PM

Some activity for Miami Central:

http://i.imgur.com/4Hg2oLJ.png
Credit: TNM reader Marc @ NextMiami

chris08876 Feb 20, 2015 8:43 PM

New Metromover fare rolls ahead

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A Miami-Dade commission committee has approved a plan to charge Metromover passengers to ride the elevated transportation system. The 4.4-mile system that serves downtown Miami and Brickell is currently free.

The decision came after much debate.

Commissioners who backed the change said charging would help beef up transit department coffers and that Miami-Dade should tap into this revenue source, especially now that a building boom is swelling Brickell and downtown.

Commissioner Barbara Jordan, a co-sponsor, said charging a fare is a way to transfer the cost of public transportation to people who can more afford it, such as those living and working downtown, from those who can least afford it, meaning people who don’t qualify for a county subsidy to use mass transit in other parts of the county.

“If we are going to have this to continue to be free, then we’re losing out on opportunities of growth and development in downtown from a constituency who can more afford to pay,” she said. “To me, we’re transferring it from where we could give discounts to people who can’t afford it to people who can afford it and we’re letting them ride free.”

Others on the dais said a paid system would cut ridership and that the financials don’t work out to give the county a solid yield.

“If there is a huge surplus to be made, then I would be supportive,” said Commissioner Dennis Moss. “But there is not a huge surplus to be made.”

If a 50-cent fare is charged, it could take the county five to 10 years to recover the initial capital expense, according to a county analysis. In addition, it would cost the county $475,000 a year to operate and maintain a fare-collection system.

[...]
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http://www.miamitodaynews.com/2015/0...e-rolls-ahead/

brickell Feb 20, 2015 10:54 PM

stoopid. rediculus. absurrd.

This is all you need to know. It's really just a handout to some company and their consultants... cough cough... I mean lobbyist.

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If a 50-cent fare is charged, it could take the county five to 10 years to recover the initial capital expense, according to a county analysis. In addition, it would cost the county $475,000 a year to operate and maintain a fare-collection system.

chris08876 Feb 23, 2015 12:31 AM

http://www.themallatmiamiworldcenter...4-1500x798.jpg

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1. Metrorail Line + Station [22.5 million riders annually]
2. Metromover + Station [10 million riders annually • 5 stops directly at MWC site]
3. I-395 + 2nd Avenue [43 million vehicles annually • 117,500 vehicles daily]
4. I-95 + 8th Street [55 million vehicles annually • 152,500 vehicles daily]
5. Biscayne Boulevard [20 million vehicles annually]
6. All Board Florida Rail [5 million riders projected annually]
7. Port of Miami [5 million cruise passengers annually • #1 cruise port in the world]
8. Miami International Airport [5 miles west from MWC site • 32 million passengers annually • #2 international passenger airport in the US]
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http://www.themallatmiamiworldcenter.com/

electricron Feb 23, 2015 6:43 AM

Metromover and its fares have nothing what-so-ever to do with FEC, or AAF.
I wish there was a better thread to post this bit of news on. ;)

Eightball Feb 23, 2015 6:23 PM

What's current planned start of revenue service? 2017? Will they open the entire Miami-Orlando line to passenger service at once or will they do it in legs like how they have funded it?

N830MH Feb 24, 2015 2:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Eightball (Post 6925822)
What's current planned start of revenue service? 2017? Will they open the entire Miami-Orlando line to passenger service at once or will they do it in legs like how they have funded it?

Actually, they will start from Miami-Ft. Lauderdale-West Palm Beach in end of 2016 and later in 2017, they will extend to Orlando.

eleven=11 Feb 25, 2015 12:32 AM

http://realtime.blog.palmbeachpost.c...lasts-quieter/
anybody think this AAF train to orlando is just a reason
to double track the miami/WPB route??

electricron Feb 25, 2015 6:36 AM

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Originally Posted by eleven=11 (Post 6927635)
http://realtime.blog.palmbeachpost.c...lasts-quieter/
anybody think this AAF train to orlando is just a reason to double track the miami/WPB route??

I suppose there are some who believe so. But FEC doesn't need AFF as a reason to double track their corridor, increase freight traffic would suffice.

eleven=11 Feb 26, 2015 1:16 AM

http://www.allaboardflorida.com/file...team-named.jpg

N830MH Feb 26, 2015 3:12 AM

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Originally Posted by eleven=11 (Post 6929018)

How did you scan a newspaper? Do you have a scanner?

chris08876 Mar 9, 2015 5:47 PM

On track: Details for downtown Miami railway hub are revealed

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/loca...0NEW%20PPP.JPG

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/loca...0News%20rk.JPG

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Work has now begun on a new station at the same spot that will bring back passenger train service — this time between Miami and Orlando.

Though the overall plan for the rail and business complex was disclosed last year, executives of All Aboard Florida recently described specific new details on how the station will operate and what its associated towers and buildings will contain. They also provided a timeline for construction of various structures that will make up the station and business hub they call MiamiCentral.

[...]

Three towers will rise from the top of the elevated platform, Sanders said.

On the north end, a 10-story tower will house offices. On the south end, two other towers — one 39 stories and the other 33 — will be built for apartments. One of the towers will contain 450 units and the other 350.


Residents will have amenities that include pools, dog-walking areas, a jogging track and a basketball court.

The elevated platform and the towers rising from the top are all part of project’s first phase of development, along with a separate building just to the west of MiamiCentral where All Aboard Florida will house its headquarters, a parking lot with 1,181 spaces for passengers, more office space, and retail outlets.

On the elevated platform itself, All Aboard Florida envisions rail tracks for its Miami-Orlando passenger trains and for Tri-Rail, which is planning to operate commuter service out of the MiamiCentral station.

Workers are now setting up the foundation for the structure, drilling the holes where massive beams will be installed to hold elevated tracks. Sanders said he expects the beam work to be completed by November. Then workers will begin building the towers. Under the current plan, MiamiCentral will open by the end of 2016, Sanders said.

The office tower and the residential towers are expected to be completed by 2017.

For now, the contractor, Suffolk, is drilling 1,680 piles into the ground, some going 60 feet deep and others 115 feet, to support the elevated structure.


“We will have four rigs, a rig on each block, drilling piles and filling them up with concrete every day, so the entire building can sit on these fingers that go down into the ground,” Sanders said.

In the second phase of the project, Sanders said, All Aboard Florida plans to build a tower just south of the elevated station to house a hotel and more residential apartments. The work is expected to begin in mid- to late-2017.

When completed, the hotel-residential tower would rise to about 850 feet, Sanders said.

All Aboard Florida expects to start express passenger train service in two phases. The first is from Miami to Fort Lauderdale and West Palm Beach in late 2016 and the second to Orlando in 2017.
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http://www.miamiherald.com/news/loca...#storylink=cpy

Eightball Mar 9, 2015 10:35 PM

Sounds like it is progressing quite nicely!

How cool would it be to live in one of those high rises above the podium housing the station :yes:

They need to run a spur to Ft. Myers/Naples. I realize that's quite unlikely but if AAF is as successful as we all think they will be, maybe we will see the public clamoring for new rail lines that provide service all over the state. It's happening in Virginia, they've had success increasing service to stations in the state and are now expanding passenger rail to places that haven't had it for decades (ie the Roanoke expansion)

Plus if they made it to Ft. Myers/Naples it's then only 130 miles more to connect to Tampa. There's already the possibility of a planned expansion to Tampa (from Orlando) right? I'm sure that's at least a decade away.

bobdreamz Mar 10, 2015 9:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Eightball (Post 6944161)
Sounds like it is progressing quite nicely!

How cool would it be to live in one of those high rises above the podium housing the station :yes:

They need to run a spur to Ft. Myers/Naples. I realize that's quite unlikely but if AAF is as successful as we all think they will be, maybe we will see the public clamoring for new rail lines that provide service all over the state. It's happening in Virginia, they've had success increasing service to stations in the state and are now expanding passenger rail to places that haven't had it for decades (ie the Roanoke expansion)

Plus if they made it to Ft. Myers/Naples it's then only 130 miles more to connect to Tampa. There's already the possibility of a planned expansion to Tampa (from Orlando) right? I'm sure that's at least a decade away.

Well it would have go to Tampa first from Orlando and then make its way down the coast to the Ft. Myers/Naples area because there is no way a train would be allowed to cross the Everglades.

Eightball Mar 10, 2015 5:35 PM

Why? Alligator Alley already cuts through the Everglades (of course) so why not just run the rail line right next to ROW?

bobdreamz Mar 12, 2015 1:30 AM

^The Environmentalists heads would explode that's why!

BrownTown Mar 12, 2015 1:57 AM

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Originally Posted by bobdreamz (Post 6947448)
^The Environmentalists heads would explode that's why!

Good, once they all explode we might be able to actually get transportation projects built in this country without having to wait for 10 years and billions of dollars wasted on environmental studies and lawsuits.

N830MH Mar 12, 2015 5:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Eightball (Post 6945254)
Why? Alligator Alley already cuts through the Everglades (of course) so why not just run the rail line right next to ROW?

Yeah, too many alligator out there!! It's very extremely dangerous. They will bite you. Stay away from the Alligator. Do not go near!!! Don't do it!

bobdreamz Mar 12, 2015 6:19 AM

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Originally Posted by BrownTown (Post 6947475)
Good, once they all explode we might be able to actually get transportation projects built in this country without having to wait for 10 years and billions of dollars wasted on environmental studies and lawsuits.

To begin with if a "train option" was viable to Naples/Ft. Meyers one of the railroad tycoons (Flagler | Plant) would have built that route prior to the environmental regulations and Alligator Alley in the early 20th. Century.
It didn't happen since Naples & Ft. Meyers weren't big enough as cities and still aren't.

eleven=11 Mar 12, 2015 10:35 AM

http://www.businesswire.com/news/hom...d#.VQFrWvnF-So
What is this??? special events center...

eleven=11 Mar 12, 2015 10:48 PM

http://www.miamitodaynews.com/2015/0...town-advances/
good news

N830MH Mar 13, 2015 3:23 AM

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Originally Posted by eleven=11 (Post 6948786)

Wow! That's great news!!! It would be so successful. Those passengers that they don't have to take on metrorail anymore. It's very extremely slow. Tri-Rail to downtown Miami is the right choice. It's long overdue!!!

chris08876 Mar 13, 2015 4:28 AM

This has been a fantastic week for Florida. From positive rail news to skyscrapers being revealed. Good times for the region.

eleven=11 Mar 13, 2015 4:36 AM

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Originally Posted by eleven=11 (Post 6947801)
http://www.businesswire.com/news/hom...d#.VQFrWvnF-So
What is this??? special events center...

http://miami.curbed.com/archives/201...ation.php#more
anybody got better plans for Ft Lauderdale??
looking for the special events center...

eleven=11 Mar 14, 2015 2:38 AM

http://www.progressiverailroading.co...acility--43816
still dont know what this is.....

eleven=11 Mar 15, 2015 1:17 AM

orlando airport maglev news
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...305-story.html

eleven=11 Mar 20, 2015 1:56 AM

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Originally Posted by eleven=11 (Post 6951189)

AAF orlando station construction started/also maglev news
http://www.bizjournals.com/orlando/b...s-on-1-1b.html

chris08876 Mar 20, 2015 2:14 AM

^^^

I guess thats a good thing. Orlando airport is ridiculously busy, especially in the mornings. Had a 6 am flight in August, and just wall to wall people. Much needed expansion.

Orlando isn't a bad airport though. Its cute in a sense. Kinda feels like a hotel lobby at times and that carpet at the baggage claims makes it feel like a Holiday Inn.

eleven=11 Mar 20, 2015 4:35 PM

The Real Deal - Mayor is a Bonehead.
http://therealdeal.com/miami/blog/20...-for-downtown/

eleven=11 Mar 20, 2015 8:43 PM

more maglev news, Where is the orlando airport Skyscraper Forum?
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/story/28...ser-to-reality

chris08876 Mar 20, 2015 9:00 PM

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Originally Posted by eleven=11 (Post 6958385)
The Real Deal - Mayor is a Bonehead.
http://therealdeal.com/miami/blog/20...-for-downtown/

Mayor is bipolar. One day hes for it, another day he's against it. :koko:

Jasonhouse Mar 21, 2015 5:03 AM

Could just be hardball?

If AAF wants the Tri-Rail connection into DT so bad that they're willing to front the money, then they probably want it so bad that they'll just pay for it.

bobdreamz Mar 22, 2015 8:50 AM

^ I doubt that AAF really wants Tri-Rail but they have released a diagram as to the configuration of the train platforms:

https://html1-f.scribdassets.com/4s6...0c1dc7d8ee.jpg

If Tri-Rail doesn't come up with the $69 million within the next few weeks then the AAF won't have to build the two additional platforms. Keeping my fingers crossed that Tri-Rail can come up with the funding in time making this station a true Inter modal station.


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